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My sleep sucks

Tacswa3
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Brand new TT, queen size bed. Added a foam topper and thick goose down like topper and finally the bed is soft enough and thick enough. BUT... I'm cramped. Can't toss and turn because overhead storage and if not careful I'll hit my head. Wardrobe closets on both sides come down half the length of the bed. And entertainment center is right up against the foot of the bed, making it so you can't stretch out.

Add the wife in the bed and the 2 of us feel cramped and we get no sleep. That puts a damper in the trips and driving back home today I was so tired it took all I had not to fall asleep at the wheel.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but this issue may cause me to trade in. Thing is I just traded up 5 months ago.
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Tacswa3
Explorer
Explorer
wnjj wrote:
Is it this one? Like someone mentioned, could you move the entertainment center wall?




Yes it is this one. When we looked, we were originally going with the 19 footer (as its just the wife and I) and it didn't have the entertainment wall. We jumped to the 22 footer because the price difference was minimal. That came back to bite me.

On another note, I've been browsing the net. I sure am liking the Artic Fox by Northwood. No dealer conveniently located near me though.

I'm not sure I want to alter the entertainment wall, IF I plan on trading at some point.

cdlaine
Explorer
Explorer
I'm good at spending other peoples money.

Life is short... get what you need... trade time. Lesson learned.

Been there, done that.

Charles
2003 2500HD, 8.1L,CC,4.10,2WD,Allison
Standard bed
Ride-rite air bags
Prodigy
Husky 16K sliding

2013 Artic Fox 29-5T Silver Fox Ed.
Pin wt.(CAT Scale) 2660#
5th (Cat Scale) 12600#

I'll want the Frim Fram sauce with the Ausen Fey with
Chafafa on the side.... Nat

hawkeye-08
Explorer III
Explorer III
Lots of good ideas so far. I think I would be looking at how to remove/alter that entertainment center to gain some room

wnjj
Explorer II
Explorer II
Is it this one? Like someone mentioned, could you move the entertainment center wall?

Jim_Shoe
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Explorer
I'd bet that the bed is the most altered or replaced item in an RV. Also the least tested item in a walk through. Considering the amount of time we spend in the bed, it should be the first thing we test. RV manufacturers must buy from the "Cheap, Uncomfortable Bed Company". Same company that supplies mattresses for the U.S. Navy.
Retired and visiting as much of this beautiful country as I can.

Tacswa3
Explorer
Explorer
myredracer wrote:
Make and model? If manufacturer's website doesn't have adequate pics, maybe post some?

Manufacturers just want it to *look* nice in photos and on display. It's not until you buy one that you find out things like this. We ordered our TT sans factory mattress and installed a better one ourselves.

Our headboard has always been too low and doesn't allow the mattress to get pushed up against the wall. No longer an issue however as the headboard just fell completely off because it was only held on by a few tiny staples. Now I get to reinstall it. :M On the bright side, it will be where it should have been. '

I sleep way better in our TT. One thing you must do is crack a window or two and open a roof vent. We have a FanTastic fan in the bedroom and run it on low and it works great. No airflow means CO2 and stale air buildup causing headaches, etc.


15' keystone bullet premier. 22 foot

myredracer
Explorer II
Explorer II
Make and model? If manufacturer's website doesn't have adequate pics, maybe post some?

Manufacturers just want it to *look* nice in photos and on display. It's not until you buy one that you find out things like this. We ordered our TT sans factory mattress and installed a better one ourselves.

Our headboard has always been too low and doesn't allow the mattress to get pushed up against the wall. No longer an issue however as the headboard just fell completely off because it was only held on by a few tiny staples. Now I get to reinstall it. :M On the bright side, it will be where it should have been. :R

I sleep way better in our TT. One thing you must do is crack a window or two and open a roof vent. We have a FanTastic fan in the bedroom and run it on low and it works great. No airflow means CO2 and stale air buildup causing headaches, etc.

Tacswa3
Explorer
Explorer
Stars101 wrote:
DH and I shopped for 7 years before we finally bought a brand new trailer. Thought we had done due diligence after owning 2 used ones, and camping for 7 years...

Tried out corner queen bed with overhead bunk for the kiddo. It was fine for the 5 min. we spent in it at the RV dealer, but OMG, how horrible it turned out to be once we used it for extended camping. Too cramped and the overhead bunk cut down on the air flow so bad we needed a battery fan to keep the air moving. We HATED it. And we had thought about it before we bought and thought it would be fine.

Even though we were used to smaller beds, and having one of us sandwiched against a wall (and needing to roll over the other to get up LOL) we underestimated the effect of that d*mn overhead bunk. And once we added enough foam toppers it too became even "closer" to our faces.

Sorry for the long post. My point being sometimes you think that you covered all your bases when buying or trading up, and then life tells you differently.... and you end up spending more time and money to get something that suits you better. Sorry it's not working out for you and good luck with a solution - and the 2 bed option might be just what's needed in your situation.

Our best camper was a vintage Shasta that had twin beds! LOL


I agree with you Stars. Sounds like we shared similar situations.

Tacswa3
Explorer
Explorer
Hondavalk wrote:
Would it help at all if you reversed the head of the bed to the foot. At lest you wouldn't have the overhead cabinet in your face.


We actually thought about this. It may help with stuffy claustrophobic feel, but not with anything else.

Dick_B
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Explorer
www.verlo.com for a new mattress
Dick_B
2003 SunnyBrook 27FKS
2011 3/4 T Chevrolet Suburban
Equal-i-zer Hitch
One wife, two electric bikes (both Currie Tech Path+ models)

rhagfo
Explorer III
Explorer III
Tacswa3 wrote:
GordonThree wrote:
Bed was the number one priority while shopping for my TT. Queen size, so called walk around. I'm almost 7 ft tall and more linemen size than kicker. I know this doesn't help your situation.

If I may ask how did you wind up with such a terrible bed while shopping for your trade up?

It may be cheaper to trade up again but you could try talking to some custom cabinetry makers about redoing the interior, around a more sensible bed.


When we upgraded, our main thing was a walk around bed. Our previous was not. While this one is technically not a true walk around we can enter and exit on our own side instead of crawling over each other. We felt it wouldn't be an issue. After using it a few times, this closed up BR is an issue.


Buying campers is like buying a home mattress. You have a limited time to try it out and don't know how its gonna work out in the long run until it gets some use.


You have as much time as you want!!! If we find a unit that interest us we ask the sales person for his card and cell, we want to take a long look at this one, we will call or text with questions.

We wanted room in our new 5er bedroom, so we got a 5er with a master suite. Yes, the shower is in the corner of the bedroom, but very spacious.

PS: We just finished a four month stint as Park Host, and never had a sleep issue.
Russ & Paula the Beagle Belle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Aisin DRW 4X4 Long bed.
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#

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wbwood
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Tacswa3 wrote:
Brand new TT, queen size bed. Added a foam topper and thick goose down like topper and finally the bed is soft enough and thick enough. BUT... I'm cramped. Can't toss and turn because overhead storage and if not careful I'll hit my head. Wardrobe closets on both sides come down half the length of the bed. And entertainment center is right up against the foot of the bed, making it so you can't stretch out.

Add the wife in the bed and the 2 of us feel cramped and we get no sleep. That puts a damper in the trips and driving back home today I was so tired it took all I had not to fall asleep at the wheel.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but this issue may cause me to trade in. Thing is I just traded up 5 months ago.


Well you figured out what you do not want in your next rig. We had a similar thing in our TT. The mattress was terrible and we added a memory foam topper. Better, but not great. Bed was wall to wall from head to toe. Thankfully we are not tall people (5'9" and 5'1"). We hated the short wardrobes on the side of the beds. The overhead storage was never an issue for us. Making the bed was a chore.

So when we were shopping for our MH, we knew what we didn't want. WE can walk around the bed (about 18-24" at the foot) and we have full size wardrobes that are on the wall across from the foot of the bed. Easier to make up too. The mattress is from the Denver mattress company and is awesome. No topper needed. It's more comfortable than our memory foam mattress at home.
Brian
2013 Thor Chateau 31L

Hondavalk
Explorer II
Explorer II
Would it help at all if you reversed the head of the bed to the foot. At lest you wouldn't have the overhead cabinet in your face.

FunnyCamper
Explorer II
Explorer II
bikendan wrote:
Margos. wrote:
The bed is the FIRST thing my husband and I look at when looking at a RV. He is 6'4 and we know we need the room around the bed. Don't even look at anything else until the bed checks out. Second is the bathroom, then the kitchen and where the TV is. Just how we will look at a new RV in a few years. Already looking at floorplans and know there are some out there that will work well for us and lots that won't. Take your time and look over everything!
Good luck.


DITTO!

DITTO 2

the master bedroom is #1 priority for us also. if my bedroom and sleeping is great, then the rest of the camper is just fluff. sleep is super important but like others said, I can sleep anywhere---after a long day having fun I could sleep on bricks also ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

IF YOU CAN do it easily, I would grade up and shop a new camper. it almost sounds like nothing you can do will get you more length.

if I was you and you guys need room....wouldn't settle for less than a king bed situation. good luck