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Not a good day Saturday

aruba5er
Explorer
Explorer
Saturday started out great, sunny, no wind and 10 miles down the road I blew a tire. Changed it(easier than waiting for someone) and then decided to return to town to buy another spare. Got the new spare and headed down the road. BAM, another tire. Changed that, and again no good spare, so back to town and another tire. Good to go. Wrong blew another tire. This time 27 miles from town. So I unhooked the fiver and took off the blown and one good? one and returned to town. Ended up buying all five new tires. The story is just because you have LT tires (uniroyal Larado LT225 R75 16 10 ply) does'nt mean you won't have tire trouble. I have close to #800 less load than the tire is rated for or #1600 per axle. The tire was 4 years 10 month old and about 15k for milage.Always covered and in the winter the camper was jacked up so no weight was one the wheels. Go figure. Just what the wallet needed and a couple thousand in body damage.
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pnichols
Explorer II
Explorer II
Well, some comments in this thread point to one advantage of single rear axle dually pickups and motorhomes in which the duals aren't dual axle tandem style - so there is no scrubbing in turns.

Are there any TTs or 5'ers in the U.S. built this way so as to eliminate tire scrubbing?
2005 E450 Itasca 24V Class C

Lwiddis
Explorer II
Explorer II
"I have over 20,000 miles on two sets of ST tires and have never had a blow out. I attribute this to running the tires at rated maximum cold pressure and never running over the rated speed of 65 mph."

AND never exceeding their max load weight minus 30%.
Winnebago 2101DS TT & 2022 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71, WindyNation 300 watt solar-Lossigy 200 AH Lithium battery. Prefer boondocking, USFS, COE, BLM, NPS, TVA, state camps. Bicyclist. 14 yr. Army -11B40 then 11A - (MOS 1542 & 1560) IOBC & IOAC grad

allen8106
Explorer
Explorer
I have over 20,000 miles on two sets of ST tires and have never had a blow out. I attribute this to running the tires at rated maximum cold pressure and never running over the rated speed of 65 mph. Just me two cents worth.
2010 Eagle Super Lite 315RLDS
2018 GMC Sierra 3500HD 6.6L Duramax

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fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
willald wrote:
I think, there's just something about how RV trailer tires are treated, that makes them prone to an early demise. Doesn't matter if you pony up for LT tires or not - Sitting for long periods exposed to the elements, pushed to very edge of weight ratings, driven sometimes when not properly inflated, tight twisting when making turns.....These things take years of life away from a tire. Thats why sooo many recommend that trailer tires be replaced every 3 or 4 years, regardless.

When we had an RV trailer, I always insisted on Maxxis (ST) tires only, and they got replaced every 4 years, no matter how good they looked. Never had a tire issue, in the 12 years we had various RV trailers. Still carry Good Sam ERS just in case, but have never had to use it with the RV.
Perhaps, but I had two ST tires blow out in less than 2 years and around 8,000 miles. I replaced them with LT tires. Those tires are 4 years old, twice as many miles, and still work and look like new. These tires will not be replaced when they are 3 or 4 years old, as that would just be throwing good money away. I'm figuring at least 5-6 years depending on weather checking.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"

aruba5er
Explorer
Explorer
Thanks for reading my complaint. I guess you never know about tires. I read all the complaints about ST tires and when I changed to disc brakes I decided to go with the larger 16 in LT tires. I had Marathon st tires and both sets had bulges in all 8 tires. Now I have 5 new tires and hope I can get home without more proplems. I bought 5 tires and kept 1 to take back to the dealer to help determine what went wrong. I inspected the 3 blown ones for nails by looking hard at them and feeling around for anything rough where a nail my have gone thru and maybe the tread when it came off may have pulled the nail with it. Felt nothing. I really wanted to replace these tires with Maxxis ST because of the squiriming of the casing when backing tight. Now I have $ 800+ in new tires so not soon anyway.
THE LAST CAT SCALE WAS 7580# on the 4 tires which gave me about 780# reserve on each tire. Go figure.

Turtle_n_Peeps
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Explorer
I've seen this happen a few times and in these cases it was not bad tires but a bunch of roofing nails. My boss kept on finding them on the same road. :E
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RandACampin
Explorer II
Explorer II
Matt_Colie wrote:
Oh Please Good Sir,

What manufacture's name was on those tires?

If they were supposed to be from a reputable company, they may have some interest.

Matt


Perhaps you should read the OPs post again.
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colliehauler
Explorer III
Explorer III
willald wrote:
I think, there's just something about how RV trailer tires are treated, that makes them prone to an early demise. Doesn't matter if you pony up for LT tires or not - Sitting for long periods exposed to the elements, pushed to very edge of weight ratings, driven sometimes when not properly inflated, tight twisting when making turns.....These things take years of life away from a tire. Thats why sooo many recommend that trailer tires be replaced every 3 or 4 years, regardless.

When we had an RV trailer, I always insisted on Maxxis (ST) tires only, and they got replaced every 4 years, no matter how good they looked. Never had a tire issue, in the 12 years we had various RV trailers. Still carry Good Sam ERS just in case, but have never had to use it with the RV.
l think you have a lot of excellent points. I always wondered about side scrubbing when coming off the highway with hot tires, it's asking a lot of them.

willald
Explorer II
Explorer II
I think, there's just something about how RV trailer tires are treated, that makes them prone to an early demise. Doesn't matter if you pony up for LT tires or not - Sitting for long periods exposed to the elements, pushed to very edge of weight ratings, driven sometimes when not properly inflated, tight twisting when making turns.....These things take years of life away from a tire. Thats why sooo many recommend that trailer tires be replaced every 3 or 4 years, regardless.

When we had an RV trailer, I always insisted on Maxxis (ST) tires only, and they got replaced every 4 years, no matter how good they looked. Never had a tire issue, in the 12 years we had various RV trailers. Still carry Good Sam ERS just in case, but have never had to use it with the RV.
Will and Cheryl
2021 Newmar Baystar 3014 on F53 (7.3 V8) Chassis ("Brook")
2018 Jeep Wrangler JK ("Wilbur")

fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
LadyRVer wrote:
First trip out with my new to me fiver, blew tire going, GS ERS was great...
Got new spare once I reached destination. Tire place said 3 years for trailer tires, no matter how good they look.

Returning home, blew another. Put new spare on...sound familiar? Again GS to the rescue. Got home and put 4 new tires on, tire company upgraded to load range D, from E, for me. Also said 3 years. Mine were right at 3 years old.

Not overloaded, aired to correct pressure. Traveling 55 to 60 m.p.h.

First blown tires since 1992, rving. Two in one trip.
Did you mistype that, since going "to load range D, from E," isn't generally an upgrade.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"

LadyRVer
Explorer II
Explorer II
First trip out with my new to me fiver, blew tire going, GS ERS was great...
Got new spare once I reached destination. Tire place said 3 years for trailer tires, no matter how good they look.

Returning home, blew another. Put new spare on...sound familiar? Again GS to the rescue. Got home and put 4 new tires on, tire company upgraded to load range D, from E, for me. Also said 3 years. Mine were right at 3 years old.

Not overloaded, aired to correct pressure. Traveling 55 to 60 m.p.h.

First blown tires since 1992, rving. Two in one trip.

Grit_dog
Navigator
Navigator
Well that s ucks! But thanks for sharing. Pretty coincidental unless something else was going on. If you'd have said they were Goddyear Marathons I may have said you were lucky all 3 didn't pop at the same time! Lol

Well should be good to go for a while.
Didn't even know Uniroyal or Laredos were still being made. Think the last ones I saw were in the 80s and 90s, on my dads pickup, big ole white letters!
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colliehauler
Explorer III
Explorer III
Some days your the dog, other days your the fire hydrant.

down_home
Explorer II
Explorer II
We had Goodyear Wrangler LT tires on our Fifth Wheel. Within a year they all failed. Used Armor All, a no no. Could see tons of checks in them.
On our F150 Lt tires but Michelin,we have new ones since Jan. The last st had over 00,000 miles and four or five years and no problems. Tires not degraded at all.
I perceive that from statements by tire people and here and my own observations that most towables tires from the factory are on the edge of load range and such.
They incur more heat and stress then they should and along with uv they break down easier.
ST tires are all designated for lower speeds I understand but don't know.
They cost more but have more uv protection.Lower speeds liek 40mph is impractical. One up on size and load range and heavier duty aluminum wheels might solve most of the tire problems with towables.