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ST verses LT tires !!

BillB800si
Explorer
Explorer
I know many have their own preference. So I thought it might help to know what the PROFESSIONALS have to say about ST (Special Trailer) verses LT (Light Truck) tires.
If you disagree take it up with the pro's- not me.
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http://www.trailerlife.com/trailer-how-to/trailer-tech/rolling-along-safely-a-tire-guide/
Rolling Along Safely: A Tire Guide

Tim Walton
June 19, 2013

ST VERSES LT.

What is a trailer tire and how is it different from a light truck tire? Most trailer tires are specifically designated โ€œSTโ€ because as Special Trailer tires they are designed to handle stresses that are not common to โ€œLTโ€ or light truck tires.
You may have noticed that tight turns with your tandem- and triple-axle trailer put tremendous side loads on the tires. You can see it in the sidewalls or hear it coming from the contact patch. ST tires are designed to handle these side stresses; LTs usually are not.
ST tires are also specifically designed to resist movement that can cause trailer sway, which can be a tremendous advantage in trailer handling.
According to some ST tire manufacturers, the polyester cords used in ST tires are bigger than those found in a comparable P-metric or LT tire. For the most part, the size of these components is directly relative to the tireโ€™s size and load rating regardless of the tireโ€™s type, be it ST, LT or P-metric, and the components are correctly sized for a given tire.
ST tire compounds contain chemicals to resist weather and ozone cracking, which are conditions that trailer tires often endure during long-term storage. Characteristics
of these tire compounds also address the inconsistent duty cycles of trailer tires that go from extended inactivity to hard use.
Use of non-ST tires should only be done at the recommendation of the trailer manufacturer. There is no shortage of โ€œexpertsโ€ online who will swear that ST tires are a conspiracy and that LT tires are better for trailering, but problems with ST trailer tires are likely to stem from not properly maintaining tires, running them underinflated, speeding or a plethora of other trailer-tire mishandlings. We are going to go with the recommendations of the trailer makers and the tire industry.
With that said, some RVers have experienced seemingly unexplained failures with ST tires on appropriately set-up trailers, especially off-brand tires imported from overseas and sold in this country at bargain prices. Some of those people solve their problems by switching to comparably sized LT tires with the same or higher maximum load ratings. This is one option to keep in mind in the event youโ€™re experiencing ongoing trouble with ST tires.

Carlisleโ€™s illustration shows the anatomy of a radial ST trailer tire.
Bias-ply or Radial?
Bias-ply tires are designed with cords that are oriented at about 60 degrees from the direction of travel and are layered to crisscross over each other. This design makes bias-ply tires more rugged, which is a good fit for some rougher terrain and some off-roading. The cord pattern creates a greater resistance to sidewall punctures.
Radial tires feature plies that run perpendicular to the direction of travel. Radial tires deliver a smooth ride, better tread wear and retain less heat, which also extends tire life.
Since bias-ply and radial tires have dramatically different construction and handling characteristics, you should never mix the two types of tires. Always choose one or the other for your trailer. Bias-ply tires are rarely found on new trailers these days.

Blow Up or Blow Out
Tires should be inflated to the pressure recommended for the trailer. A majority of trailer-tire blowouts are due to an underinflated tire, which creates excessive heat, damages the tire liner and causes the tire sidewall to rupture. If a trailer tire has a maximum pressure and not a maximum load at a minimum pressure printed on the sidewall, it should not be exceeded, but trailer tires like all tires should be inflated based on load, which will not necessarily require the maximum or minimum pressure printed on the sidewall.
Tire pressure should be checked when the tires are cold, before use and not when they have been directly exposed to sunlight. Visually inspecting trailer tires before use is important, but also use a tire-pressure gauge to read the actual pressure. The stiffer sidewalls of ST tires can often hide the potentially underinflated tire.
Goodyear recommends that a tire that has been run even 20 percent underinflated be dismounted and inspected by a trained professional. Tires that have been run underinflated shouldnโ€™t be aired up without a full inspection. A tire puncture causing a slow leak can go undetected if youโ€™re not diligent in checking tire pressures. Also, tires naturally lose a pound or two of inflation pressure per month.
Trailers with multiple axles require the tires to be identical in size to properly manage the weight of the trailer for their expected load capacity. Maxxis recommends consulting with your trailer manufacturer when considering larger tires as an option for your trailer. The trailer manufacturer can give you specific information on load capacities and tire sizes. In general, you can replace the same size tire with a higher load capacity, but never go to a lower load rating for your trailer.
While tire-care products can make tires shine and look great, donโ€™t use those that contain alcohol or petroleum distillates. They can cause tires to dry out, become weather cracked and wear more quickly.
Tire Lifespan
It seems counterintuitive, but trailer tires that are regularly used can have a better lifespan than those that are kept in storage. During use, tires release compound lubricants that can help extend tire life. A tire that is not in use can degrade from ultraviolet (UV) exposure.
The life expectancy of a trailer tire varies from manufacturer to manufacturer; however, most are between 3 to 8 years, regardless of mileage. Carlisle Tire estimates that one-third of a tireโ€™s strength is gone in approximately 3 years. Carlisle says to consider replacement after 3 years, regardless of tread depth remaining; and at 5 years definitely replace. Thatโ€™s just one companyโ€™s recommendation.
Other tire manufacturers generally suggest a tire be replaced at 7- or 8-year intervals. Frequent and detailed inspection can help you gain perspective on the tireโ€™s ongoing condition as its projected lifespan nears its end.
Tips for Storage
If the trailer is fitted with bias-ply tires and will be stored for an extended period (say, six months), it should be put on blocks to avoid flat spotting the tires. For shorter-duration storage, place each tire on a waterproof surface โ€” such as a plastic kitchen cutting board, some type of thick rubber mat or a piece of sheet metal on a piece of plywood โ€” to help isolate the tires from groundwater that can soak up into the tire and accelerate tire degradation.
Weather cracking occurs naturally in trailer tires from exposure to heat and sunlight so they should be protected from ozone, UV and heat-related exposure during storage. Storing the trailer in a cool, dark garage will prolong tire life. A less-costly option is to use tire covers available at RV accessory retailers, as these covers shield the tires from sunlight and other storage abuses.
Speed
Speed kills trailer tires. Most ST tires are designed to be run at a maximum of 65 mph. Higher speeds cause the buildup of heat, which seriously impacts the life and wear of the
trailer tires.
Alignment
Trailer alignment can be the cause of tire wear and tear. Finding a shop that is equipped to check and fix alignment issues could mean better trailer-tire life.
Alignment items to be checked include camber, toe-in, and ensuring that the axles are parallel to each other and perpendicular to the hitch pivot point. A well-equipped shop can adjust all of these characteristics to help you achieve long and reliable tire life.
Balance
Itโ€™s not a commonly known practice, but balancing trailer tires can help extend tire life as well as the lifespan of wheel bearings and other axle components. An out-of-balance trailer tire is a bad idea just as an out-of-balance tire is a bad idea on a tow vehicle. Thereโ€™s no one in a trailer to feel the shaking and vibration from out-of-balance tires, but that doesnโ€™t mean the shaking isnโ€™t happening or itโ€™s not affecting the trailerโ€™s hardware. Trailer tire balancing is cheap insurance.
Read the Manufacturing Date
Tire makers are required to display the four-digit manufacturing date of the tire at the end of the DOT number on the tire sidewall. Check this number even when youโ€™re buying new tires to make sure they were recently manufactured and not already missing a part of their useful life sitting on a shelf. The first two digits are the week and the second two are the year of manufacture. So, if the number reads โ€œ1912,โ€ they were manufactured in the 19th week of 2012.
Keeping your trailer tires up to date not only avoids delays on your trips, but keeps your family and fellow travelers safer. Save your creativity for your camp cooking and not for selecting trailer tires. Replace with the right tires as recommended by the trailerโ€™s manufacturer or by qualified engineers in the tire industry. Following are popular trailer-tire options.
Bill B. (S.E. Michigan)
2015 Dodge Ram Crew Cab 4x4 Hemi
2016 Rockwood Windjammer 3029W
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rhagfo
Explorer III
Explorer III
Well lets see ST tires seem to cost less than LT tires, and are designed to run only on trailers. They are designed to roll along in a straight line 99.999% of the time, only take the high side loads when doing a sharp turn into or out a camping pad.

Big rigs use the same tires in all positions, steer, drivers and trailer. Most will take a set of steer tires (different tread pattern)casings and have them recapped then use those on either a trailer or as a set of drivers. Think of the forces on a set of tandem drivers! I have LTs because I believe they are a better stronger tire.
Russ & Paula the Beagle Belle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Aisin DRW 4X4 Long bed.
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#

"Visit and Enjoy Oregon State Parks"

B_O__Plenty
Explorer II
Explorer II
I don't care what any of these "Experts" say. I'm running LT tires and always will..

B.O.
Former Ram/Cummins owner
2015 Silverado 3500 D/A DRW
Yup I'm a fanboy!
2016 Cedar Creek 36CKTS

C_Schomer
Explorer
Explorer
I've personally talked to some tire pros and none of them said I can't use LTs as long as the load rating is adequate. One of them said to run LTs to the max psi regardless of load. Plus from my own experience, I won't go back to STs. Craig
2012 Dodge 3500 DRW CCLB 4wd, custom hauler bed.
2008 Sunnybrook Titan 30 RKFS Morryde and Disc brakes
WILL ROGERS NEVER MET JOE BIDEN!

MarkTwain
Explorer
Explorer
Heartland Manufacturing touts ST tires also but on their forum there are many, many post about people having blowouts with ST's and going to LT's and it solved their problems. I went with LT tires designed for trailer use only.

Interesting! A year ago I bought a new Big Horn Heartland 5th. wheel and the trailer had Tow Master tires on, I told the sales person that I would not accept those tires. The salesman, said no problem, Heartland would install different tires---LT Good Year G rated tires. I have used Good year tires for years and have had good luck.

DiskDoctr
Explorer
Explorer
iawoody2 wrote:
I think when I see people motoring along at 75 and 100 degrees, the road temp surely much higher, then wondering why they had a blow out. Duh.


...and then parking for an hour on very hot asphalt while stopping for lunch :E That's pretty hard on *any* tire (the part before the blowout, that is!)

iawoody2
Explorer
Explorer
I think when I see people motoring along at 75 and 100 degrees, the road temp surely much higher, then wondering why they had a blow out. Duh.

MarkTwain
Explorer
Explorer
I give a lot of credence to experience. Seems to me the majority of actual users prefer LTs, based on anecdotal evidence on this forum.

X2:). In most cases, I recommend you throw the tires away that comes on your new trailer before you drive off the lot!!!! Trailer mfgs. look for the most economical (cheapest) tire with the lowest load rating. If you choose to keep them, be sure you have some kind of "emergency road side service" policy to tow you when the tires blow out:):):)

fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
MrWizard wrote:
when trailers 'sway' the tires move back & forth on the pavement

so i THINK

the flexible sidewalls keep the contact surface of the tire on the pavement and help prevent tire/trailer movement back & forth across the lane

just the reverse of what you said
I don't think so. I think that trailer sway would be exacerbated by a tire with a soft/weak sidewall which would allow the trailer to move around to excess. JMO of course.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"

fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
This particular line really made me laugh: "The stiffer sidewalls of ST tires can often hide the potentially underinflated tire." "Stiffer sidewalls" my aunt fanny. If I sat my 190 lbs. on the Carlisle tires I took off there was a huge amount of flex, on the Sailun tires that I put on, the tire barely moved at all. No comparison in the strength of the sidewalls.

This article is more just parroting of a line that most of the industry touts.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"

MrWizard
Moderator
Moderator
when trailers 'sway' the tires move back & forth on the pavement

so i THINK

the flexible sidewalls keep the contact surface of the tire on the pavement and help prevent tire/trailer movement back & forth across the lane

just the reverse of what was said
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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Chris_Bryant
Explorer II
Explorer II
I would bet I'm one of the few people here who has actually worn out a set of trailer tires, with 90K miles (in 3 years).
Of course back them LT was it- Michelin XCA 7.00R15 LR D (which, oddly enough, Michelin shows as still available).
-- Chris Bryant

dbbls
Explorer
Explorer
Heartland Manufacturing touts ST tires also but on their forum there are many, many post about people having blowouts with ST's and going to LT's and it solved their problems. I went with LT tires designed for trailer use only.
2011 F-350 CC Lariat 4X4 Dually Diesel
2012 Big Country 3450TS 5th Wheel

ScottG
Nomad
Nomad
mark5w wrote:
wny_pat wrote:
Who's Tim Walton, and what qualifies as a "professional" on the topic? Is he a tire engineer??? If he is, I will happily listen to him!


Tim Walton is a writer for Trailer Life magazine. He has articles published about various components of an RV. Do not know his credentials.


Then he's not an "expert" in my book.

Hoppypoppy
Explorer
Explorer
I give a lot of credence to experience. Seems to me the majority of actual users prefer LTs, based on anecdotal evidence on this forum.