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When looking at the two, Timbrens have no moving parts, nothing to adjust, nothing to fail....while air bags require adjustments loaded and unloaded, possible air line failure over time, and you must ensure that you keep the minimum air pressures in the bags, which means they require periodic checks when not towing....I like the no fuss route...
โFeb-21-2015 06:16 AM
โFeb-20-2015 11:10 PM
kzspree320 wrote:
I am replying to give you some food for thought. I now have Tembrens on my 2008 Dodge 2500 CTD. I installed them about 2 years ago after we first bought our new fifth wheel.
When I first installed them the clearance from the axle was about 3/4 of an inch. They have worked well and I was well pleased until now. In summary, the timbrens are now only about 1/4 inch away or so from the axle. I can only guess from having my heavy superglide hitch in it year round and towing with about 2,700 lbs extra on the rear axle for about 30 days a year. The truck has about 103,000 miles on it now so a little suspension sag is to be expected.
Since the gap between the Tembrens and the axle is now about a quarter inch, the truck does not ride well empty at this time. It does not take much of a bump and the truck hits the Tembrens harshly. It still rides well when I am towing and supports the pin weight well. I think the harsh ride comes from being on the stock leaf springs and then hitting the Tembrens when we hit even small bumps. Until your suspension sags a bit, you will not have this problem. I might not have this problem in another 50K miles because the suspension will have sagged enough that I will be well on the Tembrens at all times. But for now, the truck is riding terrible.
I have ordered and will be installing a set of Firestone ride rite air bags next week. I liked not having to sorry about air pressure with the Tembrens, but the suspension sag leaves me much more willing to trade off air pressure concerns for a decent ride when empty. Hope this helps.
โFeb-17-2015 01:26 PM
โFeb-17-2015 05:35 AM
kzspree320 wrote:Making the spacer shorter is exactly what Timbren suggests in a too long scenario. Although I am not suspension expert it sounds like you have a sagging suspension problem. Air bags will certainly mask the problem.301TBS wrote:
kzspree320, I had the same low clearance issue and contacted Timbren. They are very good at customer support, and sent me different frame brackets no charge.
Mine attach where the factory jounce bumpers were. The Timbrens are directly under the frame between the frame and axle and are now too long. A bracket wouldn't change mine but may help with others. I didn't want to saw any length off my Timbrens to get the necessary clearance.
Maybe they had some shorter Timbrens that would have worked, but I thought the suspension sag would just get worse. I am hoping the air bags will provide continual support and keep the suspension from sagging more. Got the Firestone air bags on sale for less than $300. I hope suspension sag issues are in the past.
Thanks for the info. Timbren is a very good company and the products are good. They have been great and I am certainly not knocking them at all. I got my moneys worth. Just wanted to touch on the suspension sag issue for trucks with some mileage on them.
โFeb-16-2015 03:40 PM
mike-uswest wrote:301TBS wrote:
My Timbrins are set with a 1" gap when empty. They came with a rubber disc than can be used to adjust the clearance. They make a huge difference in stability and are easy to install with no modification's.
The same for mine. In and done. Very pleased.
Mike
โFeb-16-2015 07:33 AM
301TBS wrote:
kzspree320, I had the same low clearance issue and contacted Timbren. They are very good at customer support, and sent me different frame brackets no charge.
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โFeb-15-2015 11:46 AM
โFeb-15-2015 11:42 AM
kzspree320 wrote:
I am replying to give you some food for thought. I now have Tembrens on my 2008 Dodge 2500 CTD. I installed them about 2 years ago after we first bought our new fifth wheel.
When I first installed them the clearance from the axle was about 3/4 of an inch. They have worked well and I was well pleased until now. In summary, the timbrens are now only about 1/4 inch away or so from the axle. I can only guess from having my heavy superglide hitch in it year round and towing with about 2,700 lbs extra on the rear axle for about 30 days a year. The truck has about 103,000 miles on it now so a little suspension sag is to be expected.
Since the gap between the Tembrens and the axle is now about a quarter inch, the truck does not ride well empty at this time. It does not take much of a bump and the truck hits the Tembrens harshly. It still rides well when I am towing and supports the pin weight well. I think the harsh ride comes from being on the stock leaf springs and then hitting the Tembrens when we hit even small bumps. Until your suspension sags a bit, you will not have this problem. I might not have this problem in another 50K miles because the suspension will have sagged enough that I will be well on the Tembrens at all times. But for now, the truck is riding terrible.
I have ordered and will be installing a set of Firestone ride rite air bags next week. I liked not having to sorry about air pressure with the Tembrens, but the suspension sag leaves me much more willing to trade off air pressure concerns for a decent ride when empty. Hope this helps.
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