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Towing ~8000 with new F150.. fun or scary?

Dirtpig
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Im considering downsizing my current F350 diesel to a more tame F150 crewcab 6 1/2ft box with the max towing and payload package. Anyone towing large trailers with this truck. Are you comfortable towing with it or is it scary & working very hard? My F350 tows my trailer easy right now. Trailer is in sig, 28.8' Nash including hitch and bumper. approx 7300lbs on scale and 850lb pin weight.

What do you think? New F150 or New F350?
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tragusa3
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I tow about #7000 loaded. There is absolutely nothing stressful about the tow. At the two year point, my jaw still drops at how easy it tows every time I hookup. I know a larger truck would be better, but I chose the truck that was better at the other 15k miles a year that I drive. Again...I haven't seen anything about the towing experience that I would care to improve. I don't even make payload compromises, as the trailer itself has a cargo weight of #2500.
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jerem0621
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I pulled a 31.5 Ft TT with my 97 F150 and it weighed in about 7,000 lbs loaded to camp...

i never had an issue with it..it was a good experience. "Upgraded" to a 99 F350 CC Dually and missed my F150 the entire time.

Yea it was a little slow pulling hard grades while pulling heavy but it never failed to get me where I was going.

Thanks!

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IdaD
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There are two guys in my office with aluminum body F150s. One is a Supercrew short box with the 2.7, the other is a Supercab 6.5' box with the 3.5, and both have 4wd. We have similar types of commutes and my mileage is smack between the two - not as good as the 2.7, but better than the 3.5. My truck rides and drives a bit truckier than the F150s, but it's much more capable and has much stouter components. If you're not towing anything significant I can see how a guy could pick the F150, but if you're towing much of trailer the Cummins is a no brainer, imo.
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4BIGAL
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I am finding the same thing. Also, the tradesman with the chrome and popular packages have about the same level of options as my 2006 xlt. My work commute is 11 miles with most of it 60 mph in the country. Sad thing is I went to a travel trailer from a 34' 5th in order to down size to the HD F150. My travel trailer dry weight is 7450 lbs. We camp about 30 nights a year but most of it is local with one 2000+ mile trip in the summer.
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IdaD
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4BIGAL wrote:
I have been contemplating a F150 max tow for my next truck too. For the last 8 years I have parked my F350 and drove a Focus. I am ready to drive a truck again every day but don't like the 11 mpg. No plans to change until next year so I have time and I plan to get my rig weighted to open my options. 3500 tradesman diesel is an option too. Better daily mileage and lots of towing grunt for about the same cost as an F150 XLT with max tow. Wish Ford would put the 450 ftlb ecoboost in the super duty.


I am very thankful I went with a CTD Ram as I was also considering max tow and heavy payload F150s. When you compare pricing the lower trim diesels aren't any more expensive than the heavy spec'd F150s, or at least not materially more expensive considering what these trucks cost. I have no issues at all with mine as a daily driver, and I average just over 17 in my standard city/suburban commute with lots of stoplights and traffic. Obviously that's not as good as a focus, but it's pretty good considering it's a heavy duty 4wd truck that also pulls around my fifth wheel with ease.
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jake2250
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I wouldn't tow it with anything less than a3/4 ton, I don't care if that F150 has a blown or super charged 427 in it, its still a 1/2..
I had a 2004 F150 Screw 5.4 HD, I tow a 23' trailer just shy of 5000lbs loaded closer to 6000lbs, Towed it with that F150 for two years,, It progressively got worse and worse. It was actually wearing that truck out,, let alone wearing me out!!
The 5.4 was advertised at 300 HP,,and I can tell you my foot was in that thing ALLOT!!!

After a transmission flush and new Bilstien shocks it was still a handful!! Last trip was the proverbial Last Trip!! Towed in a head wind of 25 to 30 mph, I could barely keep it at 60mph, And god forbid I got passed by a semi,, I was blown all over!!
Got to the camp ground and the wife even admitted,, "Need a bigger truck"

4BIGAL
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I have been contemplating a F150 max tow for my next truck too. For the last 8 years I have parked my F350 and drove a Focus. I am ready to drive a truck again every day but don't like the 11 mpg. No plans to change until next year so I have time and I plan to get my rig weighted to open my options. 3500 tradesman diesel is an option too. Better daily mileage and lots of towing grunt for about the same cost as an F150 XLT with max tow. Wish Ford would put the 450 ftlb ecoboost in the super duty.
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srt20
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I haven't read all the replies but,

One thing to consider is the difference on you as the driver and the ease of the drive.

I am used to the way my 2500 drives and tows. I have a light load that I haul up north about 3 hrs every other weekend or so. When we bought a SUV, which has a tow capacity way way over what my load is, I used it a few times to haul the load up north. It towed it fine and safe. BUT, it was just a PIA compared to my 2500. You could definitely feel the trailer, slightly long stops, slower acceleration, etc. Not a huge deal, but it was there.
So I mainly just use my 2500 to go up north. It just a more relaxing drive. I do use the SUV once in a while but it's not as fun of a drive.

Just another thing to think about. How much more "stressful", not necessarily "scary", will the difference in towing be.

joshuajim
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I have a '13 F150 EB with Max tow and HD payload package. I tow an 8,000# scale weight Wildwood all over the mountanous windy west without any issues. It took a while to dial in the Equil-i-zer but now it's virtually sway free in any condition and the EB is equal to any mountain. However, gas mileage SUCKS. Typical is 7 to 8 towing at <65 MPH and 15 bare.

From direct experience, I would say no problem.
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Groover
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IdaD wrote:
humblerb wrote:
IdaD wrote:
That's right at or just a bit over the limit of what I'd personally want to try to tow with a half ton, but lots of guys on this site are doing it and report good results. I guess I'd say a lot depends on how you use the trailer. If you don't leave the island much and mainly just camp fairly close to home I would be more apt to do it than if you plan to haul it on longer trips into the Rockies regularly.

I definitely would not spend the money on an F250 since you have an F350. If you want an F250 it would be much cheaper to simply remove your overload springs.


He was asking about a New F150 or a New F350. Looks like he is going to buy a new vehicle, but wanted advice on F150 versus F350. To me, the F250 is the best of both worlds - downgrade from the current F350, but enough truck to not have to ask if he would be comfortable pulling his rig.


Pulling off the overload spring would give him an F250 except for the badge on the fender. Unless the F250 in question came with the package that included the overload spring, because those trucks exist too. My point is that they're basically the same thing so spending a bunch of money to switch from one to the other doesn't make a lot of sense. Obviously going to an F150 is a big enough difference it can warrant a change for some folks in some circumstances.


The main thing about an F150 that appealed to me over an F250 is the empty gas milage. The 6.2 in the F250 seems to be a great engine for towing but when they were both offered in the F150 the Ecoboost gave an extra 3mpg. If you are going to drive empty a lot that might be important to you. The added weight of the F250 will further hurt your mpg, especially around town. I think that I read recently that Ford is going back to using the same cab across the board in 2017 so differences in the two trucks are mostly going to be drive train, frame weight and suspension. The last time I priced the two I was shocked at how little price difference there is in the two. In my case I also wanted the lighter weight of the F150 largely because I want to use it as a toad behind my motorhome that is really only rated to pull the weight of the new aluminum bodied F150.

As for towing, I have been really impressed with the my 2016 F150. Shortly after ordering the truck I decided to start a business that requires me to pull a trailer that is at or a little over 11,000lbs. I felt obligated to try the truck that I had instead of trading in my brand new one. So far towing this trailer has not been an issue and the 2016 F150 tows better than my 1991 F250 did. This trailer is not a camper and may not have the wind loading of a camper but this truck has really impressed me so far. I did get max trailer tow option, 6 1/2ft bed, 4wd and the optional LT tires plus I added air bags in the rear and use a load distributing hitch. I did not get max payload package because it could not be ordered with several other options I wanted. For some reason when you check the box for max payload package most of the option list on the F150 goes away, including some things that I view as important safety features. This will probably change in the next year or two.

Bottom line, I am pulling 11,000+ lbs and have no regrets over getting the F150. But, short of getting the max payload package it is equipped the best I knew how to get it for the job, including aftermarket airbags. Ford would recommend the the load distributing hitch for either truck and I would suggest the air bags on both in place of the steel overload springs on the F250. Based in my experience with a 2013 F150 I feel that the LT tires are very important for good trailer pulling. I recently replaced the factory car tires on the 2013 F150 with LT tires and the truck is much more stable now. Good trailer brakes are going to be important with any truck but more so with a half ton.

oxt127
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There is really no debating that both trucks will tow the weight of the trailer just fine. However, consideration should be given to the following. While coming home yesterday on I-81 south just north of Harrisburg I was pulling my 30' trailer and a F-150 came on the highway just behind me. 5 miles down the road it looked like he was going to make an attempt to pass me. Mind you I was already going 70, it was not terribly windy but it was noticeable and the gusts were enough to get your attention and keep you honest. I check my mirrors after one such gust to find him in the verge of loosing control of the truck and trailer. He was all over the left lane and swaying into and out of it on both sides while I just kept going along. Could his hitch been set up incorrectly? sure, but there is something to be said for having a heavier weighing tow vehicle keep things steady.
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IDoMyOwnStunts
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kofire wrote:
What's wrong with the current truck?


A 2005 F-350 Diesel?

I can think of at least 6.0 reasons he may want to change trucks.
I'm done. This isn't a place to be helpful. It's a place where curmudgeons with a superiority complex will nit pick everything. If you want help, go elsewhere. Admin, delete my account please.

time2roll
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Dirtpig wrote:
to a more tame F150 crewcab 6 1/2ft box with the max towing and payload package.
Verify correct GVWR on the door before you sign. These trucks seem to be fairly rare on the lot.
GVWR info is on the ford website.

kofire
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What's wrong with the current truck?

Dirtpig
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Thanks for the great replies. After looking into these trucks i think i will wait for the 2017 models as big changes are ahead for both the 150 and 350.
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2001 Honda XR400: many mods
12ft Lund WC boat & 9.9 Yamaha 4 stroke on custom loader.