Towing Capability

[Birdie1025]

Here is the data I have:
2013 Ford F150 FX 4x4 with 5.0L engine
Axle Ratio = 3.55
Max Loaded Trailer Weight = 7,700 lbs (F150 Towing Guide)
GCWR = 13,500 lbs (F150 Towing Guide) Sticker on Left driver door shows a GVWR = 7,350 lbs
Dead Weight Hitch = Max Tongue Wt = 500 lbs (F150 Vin Decoder)
Travelers Weight for us = 120 lbs. + 150 lbs + 85 lbs (dog) + 35 lbs (dog)

Found a good deal on a 2006 Eclipse Attitude T19FK Toy Hauler. I am having trouble finding information on TH. What I am finding is Hitch Weight = 650 lbs and Cargo Weight = 5,000 lbs.

To help aid in the process - Live in the midwest (IN) and see mostly traveling around the midwest as of now. This will be the first TH so I don't honestly now to answer that question at this time.

How do I take all that info and confirm that my 1/2 ton truck can handle the TH listed above. If it can't handle that what should be my cap I should be looking for in a TH.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

[nickthehunter]

JIMNLIN wrote:
A F150 4wd 5.0 3.55 with a 7350 gvwr has those small 3850 rawr. Rawr will be carrying all the load in the bed. Your Fi50 rear axle may weigh in the 2400-2500 lb range from the factory which leaves it with around 1300-1400 lb in the bed payload before exceeding its 3850 lb rawr.
Rawr = the lessor of wheels/P tires/rear axle and suspension.
The problem with the payload placard number is its a GVWR based payload and as many truck owners have found out when all that number is placed in the bed it may overload the trucks rear axle/tires/wheels and rear suspension.

With any truck its best to weigh front and rear axles separately. That way you know how much in the bed payload the truck can safely handle.

Sounds like a 6.5k dry hitch weight = a 6500 lb dry trailer weight and add a 5k CCC = a 10k GVWR + trailer.
Not enough truck if thats the case.

A 10,000 lbs trailer is still only 1,000 lbs of payload using 10% as you did in your calculation. Fact is. OP has not given any indication of how much of that Cargo Weight he plans to use.

[rhagfo]

JIMNLIN wrote:
A F150 4wd 5.0 3.55 with a 7350 gvwr has those small 3850 rawr. Rawr will be carrying all the load in the bed. Your Fi50 rear axle may weigh in the 2400-2500 lb range from the factory which leaves it with around 1300-1400 lb in the bed payload before exceeding its 3850 lb rawr.
Rawr = the lessor of wheels/P tires/rear axle and suspension.
The problem with the payload placard number is its a GVWR based payload and as many truck owners have found out when all that number is placed in the bed it may overload the trucks rear axle/tires/wheels and rear suspension.

With any truck its best to weigh front and rear axles separately. That way you know how much in the bed payload the truck can safely handle.

Sounds like a 6.5k dry hitch weight = a 6500 lb dry trailer weight and add a 5k CCC = a 10k GVWR + trailer.
Not enough truck if thats the case.

JIMNLIN, Right on!
I might add that with a 2014 the payload number likely is no longer accurate as anything added to the truck since it rolled off the assembly line has reduced it.

[JIMNLIN]

A F150 4wd 5.0 3.55 with a 7350 gvwr has those small 3850 rawr. Rawr will be carrying all the load in the bed. Your Fi50 rear axle may weigh in the 2400-2500 lb range from the factory which leaves it with around 1300-1400 lb in the bed payload before exceeding its 3850 lb rawr.
Rawr = the lessor of wheels/P tires/rear axle and suspension.
The problem with the payload placard number is its a GVWR based payload and as many truck owners have found out when all that number is placed in the bed it may overload the trucks rear axle/tires/wheels and rear suspension.

With any truck its best to weigh front and rear axles separately. That way you know how much in the bed payload the truck can safely handle.

Sounds like a 6.5k dry hitch weight = a 6500 lb dry trailer weight and add a 5k CCC = a 10k GVWR + trailer.
Not enough truck if thats the case.

[Grit_dog]

naturist wrote:
Missing data: truck payload. Also, you need to add to the mix the weight of a full tank of gas, which will increase how much your projected payload weighs.

You don’t need to over analyze it, but you can.
5klb trailer = WELL within the capabilities of a 5.0 F150. Period. Both on paper with a healthy margin of capability above that weight and in the real world.
My old 2011 5.0 f150 towed that much when the trailers were empty and double that when they were full. Did it pretty admirably as well. That’s a good truck platform and the drivetrain is excellent.

[troubledwaters]

Pretty hard to know for sure (incomplete info) - but as long as you keep the weight of everything you load into the trailer (everything - including plastic silverware, paper plates, pillow, blankets, onboard water, propane, battery, 4 wheelers in the back, and everything else) down to about 2000 lbs, you'll be right on the cusp of what that truck will handle.

[LarryJM]

Best I can tell that TH has a UVW of around 5300lbs and in addition to the ability to carry "TOYS" it has HUGE holding and water tanks so even if you can keep the total wt of the TV within specs I suspect you will be over your GVCWR always and maybe by a lot thus making for an overall towing experience a lot less than optimum or even satisfactory. While GVCWR might not be a "HARD" limit IMO towing near and especially over in most cases is not something I would recommended except occassionally and definitely not for days at a time.

Larry

[jfkmk]

bikendan wrote:

naturist wrote:
Missing data: truck payload. Also, you need to add to the mix the weight of a full tank of gas, which will increase how much your projected payload weighs.

Payload is calculated with a full tank in the truck.

Exactly. Your payload, as noted on the door jamb, includes everything that came with the truck plus all fluids, including gas. You need to subtract any aftermarket options, all passengers, etc.

[bikendan]

naturist wrote:
Missing data: truck payload. Also, you need to add to the mix the weight of a full tank of gas, which will increase how much your projected payload weighs.

Payload is calculated with a full tank in the truck.

[Birdie1025]

The payload = 1,700 lbs . I would have to look more into weight of tank of gas.

[Lwiddis]

All the data but the most important...payload. But probably within specs.

[naturist]

Missing data: truck payload. Also, you need to add to the mix the weight of a full tank of gas, which will increase how much your projected payload weighs.