What happened to maxbrake?

[partsjockey]

I just traded trucks, and took my maxbrake of my 03 v10 Ford. Was hoping to find the adapters to use it on my 11 eb f150 but seems they're no longer. Guest its eBay bound and a factory controller to replace it.

[Sport45]

Lynnmor wrote:
If hard braking is needed and the truck has little traction, the trailer will not help with the braking. There are many situations where the driver isn't controlling the brakes but there is no point getting into it, only Mickey Mouse products are currently available.

If the truck has little traction the trailer won't have much traction either. About the last thing you want in this situation is for the trailer wheels to lock up (because you've got the brake pedal planted on the floor) while the truck's anti-lock brake system is doing it's thing. The sliding trailer will try its best to swing you around backwards...

[Cummins12V98]

BenK

I have used a P2 and hated it!!! Yes it was properly set up and I had even re wired my brakes with equal distance cable and used stranded #10. The brakes were in good condition and properly adjusted.

I have not used the P3 so I can't comment.

My 11 Dually IBC was better than the P2 but NOT good IMHO. Installed a MaxBrake, WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! There was NO delay, NO jerking, NO underbracing or overbearing. No joke it was as if the trailer was not there.

2015 IBC is NOT near as good as the 12-14 RAM IBC's. I will be installing my MB and using it until RAM has a flash for this BIG problem.

[BenK]

Because "mine is better, bigger, etc...than yours" is why all the ill
will against anything other than what they have...and...feel threatened
by anyone thinking otherwise...

Am not blindly loyal and do have loyalties. That is only natural

Personally think most folks did not setup their after market trailer
brake controllers & the whole setup...why so many like the IBC's...there
is no setup needed of the owner...even then questions abound on these
forums asking HOW2 dial them in

Also personally will NOT touch my brakes hydraulic system for any trailer
brake controller. Nor do I personally like sensing MC PSI as the basis
for trailer braking input. There is a disassociation with what is going
on with the whole setup...but this masks improper controller setup

The banging/jerking/etc folks report is foreign to me on all the TVs
I've help setup and/or fix. All inertia based accelerometer

The Jordan's innards was not to my liking, but saw how it gets the
trailer brakes into the game way before MC PSI sensed

I like accelerometer based along with properly adjusted TV brake
pedal switch initiation. Mine turns on the trailer brakes way BEFORE
the TV's MC ever develops any PSI. So my trailer leads the TV in
braking...to even be able to slow down the whole setup without ever
getting any PSI on the TV MC...for as long as the brake pedal switch
is on and there is deceleration...the P3 will continue to tell the
trailer brakes to stay on...factored by the preset gain...

Unless the IBC's also sense TV brake pedal switch actuation, my setup
will lead the trailer brakes more...AND...will also INCREASE the
amount of power sent to the trailer brakes if the deceleration increases...



There is no one perfect for everyone...whatever works for 'you' the
person asking or advising.

[Lynnmor]

SoCalDesertRider wrote:
I liked the Jordan, with it's mechanical cable connection to the brake pedal arm, which varies the trailer brake modulation, depending on how far you're pushing on the truck's brake pedal. Very little can go wrong with it and it works great. Too bad they don't make them anymore. It's also very easy to install, no more difficult than installing an all electronic one.

The Jordan was a rather good controller, but was not quite as accurate as one that uses a pressure sensor. By using the hydraulic pressure as a reference, the controller can output a precise amount. For example: twice the pressure can be twice the current to the trailer brakes. The Jordan would follow foot movement and twice the distance usually doesn't mean exactly twice the braking is needed.

Now look at the current crop that doesn't use direct input from the driver. If hard braking is needed and the truck has little traction, the trailer will not help with the braking. There are many situations where the driver isn't controlling the brakes but there is no point getting into it, only Mickey Mouse products are currently available.

[gmw_photos]

Why all the ill will towards the prodigy ? I have two trucks that I tow with. The Ford has the factory IBC, and the Nissan has a prodigy P2. They both work.

Truthfully, in some ways, the prodigy actually works better.

[SoCalDesertRid1]

I liked the Jordan, with it's mechanical cable connection to the brake pedal arm, which varies the trailer brake modulation, depending on how far you're pushing on the truck's brake pedal. Very little can go wrong with it and it works great. Too bad they don't make them anymore. It's also very easy to install, no more difficult than installing an all electronic one.

[Cummins12V98]

Lynnmor wrote:

tempforce wrote:
factory installed trailer brakes, killed them.

Why didn't Prodigy die the same death? Sure, the factory controllers cut sales but people want cheap and easy.

The Prodigy does not tap into your brake line. Most people are not capable of such a simple task.

[partsjockey]

Can't even find one on Ebay for a cost comparison,,,,, Who knows what shelf it will live on for the next 10 years LOL

[Lynnmor]

tempforce wrote:
factory installed trailer brakes, killed them.

Why didn't Prodigy die the same death? Sure, the factory controllers cut sales but people want cheap and easy.

[tempforce]

factory installed trailer brakes, killed them.

[partsjockey]

We'll see what eBay says, if I clear enough to put the factory controller I'll be happy lol

[Cummins12V98]

Yep the simple "T" fitting on the master cylinder where one of the brake lines attaches. Very simple install with just pushing out air at the fitting ONLY and NOT a complete brake line bleed.

I have NEVER had better braking than when I had the MB in my 11 RAM towing a combined 29K. It feels like there is no trailer behind you.

I most likely will be installing mine I removed from my 11 RAM Dually in my 15 since the Factory screwed with the way the IBC puts out voltage and is NOT safe.

[Lynnmor]

The factory controller is a good option.

MaxBrake and Brakesmart were excellent controllers but few people would buy them opting for cheap instead. A simple install of a tee in a brake line was also way above what people were capable doing. As you know, controlling the trailer brakes with your foot pressure is the only intelligent way to do it.

[SoCalDesertRid1]

I guess they went the same way as Jordan.