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FDA Baffled and asking dog owners for answers??

rockhillmanor
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FDA is asking "US"-dog owners, on national TV tonight"....

Why approx 600 dogs have died and around 3,000 have become ill after
eating jerky treats from China made of chicken, duck, sweet potato.???? :S:S

Isn't that THEIR job? ๐Ÿ˜ž

The world 'has' gone crazy.





Costa Rica that's the place to be. :C

We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.

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rockhillmanor
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The FDA can only do what they are authorized to do and funded to do. You want more inspections then give the FDA more funding = pay more taxes.


I'd gladly pay more taxes and then some, to ensure better food safety to avoid getting sick!

We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.

Bumpyroad
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rockhillmanor wrote:
"Rat meat sold as lamb in latest China food scandal"
This is what China sold to their own humans, can we honestly believe they care about what they ship to the USA for dogs?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/more-arrests-for-selling-fake-and-spoiled-meat-show-chinas-fo...


And herein lies all the problems regarding imports.
".....FDA, which only inspects 1% of regulated imports...."
http://consumerist.com/2007/05/21/chinese-poison-train-declared-unstoppable-next-stop-you/


I don't have extraordinary faith in the Washington Compost for data, but after glancing at the consumerist, wouldn't waste any more time on them myself.
bumpy

BCSnob
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The FDA can only do what they are authorized to do and funded to do. You want more inspections then give the FDA more funding = pay more taxes.

Proposed 2014 FDA Budget
FDA budget includes increase for food safety, inspections of Chinese imports

Strapped by FSMA, FDA seeks authority for new user fees in budget request
The US Food and Drug Administration has requested a $4.7 million dollar budget for fiscal year 2014, an increase of $821 million, or 21%, over FY 2012. The biggest chunk of that increase is due to the Food Safety Modernization Act and almost all of that would be borne by new user fees.

new user fees = higher retail prices

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rockhillmanor
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"Rat meat sold as lamb in latest China food scandal"
This is what China sold to their own humans, can we honestly believe they care about what they ship to the USA for dogs?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/more-arrests-for-selling-fake-and-spoiled-meat-show-chinas-fo...


And herein lies all the problems regarding imports.
".....FDA, which only inspects 1% of regulated imports...."
http://consumerist.com/2007/05/21/chinese-poison-train-declared-unstoppable-next-stop-you/

We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.

Go_Dogs
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'First belief was the fact they drink a lot of red wine, but then the discovery was made that they don't have the bacteria that Americans do. '

I read the posted articles about lecithin waste-products linked to rates of heart disease. It appears that there was one study done in the US. I missed where the French were also included in this study.

Pawz4me
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Go Dogs wrote:
'Scientists have recently discovered what they believe is the reason why Americans have such high rates of heart disease. We have a bacteria in our system that causes some sort of chemical reaction which creates the conditions for heart disease. '

Any facts to support that one?


Crowe may have more, but here are a few articles that discuss the issue:

Cleveland Clinic

Science Daily

NPR
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Go_Dogs
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'Scientists have recently discovered what they believe is the reason why Americans have such high rates of heart disease. We have a bacteria in our system that causes some sort of chemical reaction which creates the conditions for heart disease. '

Any facts to support that one?

Bumpyroad
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--- and they will bury us in the end.
bumpy

dturm
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...and no EPA regulations that leave toxic metal/chemical sites among the worst in the world.
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BCSnob
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...and lower overhead due to little to no clean air and clean water laws. But then they have smog thicker than San Fransico fog, toxic water, and contaminated soil (like USA in 1970).
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Bumpyroad
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qtla9111 wrote:
Go to the tech forums and see how many people order LEDs from China. Why? The Chinese know how to do it.

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well I would say the reason that our LEDs, CFLs, shoes, etc., etc., etc. come from China is that they can make it with reduced labor costs and can undercut the made in the US prices drastically.
bumpy

qtla9111
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It's a Chinese plot to rid the U.S. of its pets. First it was the human side, and now the pet side.

Funny isn't it? Everyone shops at Walmart, everyone likes cheap, and yet they complain daily about the Chinese.

Yet the U.S. government has sold 1.7 trillion dollars of debt to the Chinese. Makes you wonder who the enemy is, right?

The Chinese, just like the U.S., we all make junk sometimes but we all make some good stuff too. Go to the tech forums and see how many people order LEDs from China. Why? The Chinese know how to do it.

Don't blame the Chinese for bad dog treats, blame the FDA, Congress, and big business for allowing junk into your country and you for buying it.

Label readers, puhleeeeze.
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Crowe
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maybe that roadkill IS healthier than human food....LOL!!!

'Ceptin it might matter where the tire that made it road pizza is from!!! :B

There are so many variables that it's in our best interest to help the FDA in any way possible. Could be processing, could be main ingredients, could be a reaction that's caused by an enzyme in a dog's stomach interacting with what appears to be a benign ingredient. Scientists have recently discovered what they believe is the reason why Americans have such high rates of heart disease. We have a bacteria in our system that causes some sort of chemical reaction which creates the conditions for heart disease. The French have diets that are rich in fats and red meats, but don't have a high rate of heart disease. First belief was the fact they drink a lot of red wine, but then the discovery was made that they don't have the bacteria that Americans do. So many questions to answer that the FDA just can't do it on their own.

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Deb_and_Ed_M
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I was going to justify a Dorito chip as being healthier for my dogs than roadkill, but after reading about how meats coming from China might be labeled from the USA, maybe that roadkill IS healthier than human food....LOL!!!
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Francesca_Knowl
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Stop worrying about cooked chicken nuggets from China, and START worrying about the lawsuit filed early this year by a big group of North American Meat folks. It challenges country-of-origin labeling requirements on ALL meat!

Link to story

Here quoting:

American Meat Institute wrote:
โ€œSegregating and tracking animals according to the countries where production steps occurred and detailing that information on a label may be a bureaucratโ€™s paperwork fantasy, but the labels that result will serve only to confuse consumers, raise the prices they pay, and put some producers and meat and poultry companies out of business in the process. Everyone loses under this rule.โ€
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