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Another "Rogue" controller

Almot
Explorer III
Explorer III
Not what you think. Look Here.

I was about to make a joke on Chinese elephant, but nope - see printed on the casing, on the right: "Made in the USA". Click on the item picture, and on the picture again and hover over, to zoom in. This isn't "Rogue Power Technologies" with MPPT controllers 3048 and 2048, but "Rogue Engineering". The seller is also US based, Glendale Ca, new guys.

I was looking not for Rogue MPPT - already have it - but for MC4 extensions, of which they have many and different gauges.
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BFL13
Explorer II
Explorer II
Last year I was stuck by having two 12v 100w panels and a 20a controller I happened to have and also had a 130w 12v panel. I had a second 20a controller for the 130w panel so all was good. What I actually needed was a single 30a controller to run all three panels.

If I wanted to go MPPT with those three panels, that would mean I still needed a 30a controller, but now with those three in series, I would need a Voc limit above 66 Voc for the three at 22 each.

It turns out this is not so easy to find where you want a Voc limit of 100v or so and at least 30a to go 24v MPPT.

As it happened, I sold the two 100w panels and got a 230w panel instead but this is 24v and the 130 is 12v, so I can't use just one controller. My bad. So I now have an MPPT controller that can do that 230w panel (but no more with its 42Voc limit) and a second PWM controller for the 130w panel.

However, I did end up getting a new PWM 30a controller for the 130w panel that would have been perfect last year to run my three 12v panels. It cost $34.

It is still madness to buy these over-fancy MPPT controllers for hundreds of dollars where you don't get many more AH per day than with the PWM $34 job. There is some cost savings in some market places where you get a lower cost per watt on the panel by choosing the 24v panels instead of the 12v panels and putting those in series to get the 24v.

But then you need an MPPT controller and those feeling patriotic pay hundreds of dollars extra for their patriotism, when they refuse to buy Chinese. What is badly needed is a "patriotic" MPPT controller that does not cost an arm and a leg.

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mena661
Explorer
Explorer
KJINTF wrote:
Have to guess the market opportunity is fairly large for the small solar controllers.

Morningstar with it's new 30amp TS-MPPT
Midnight also has a small 30amp controller

Not sure where all the controllers are being installed
Our little RV industry could not possibly be there primary market
I'm thinking off grid cabins.

KJINTF
Explorer
Explorer
Have to guess the market opportunity is fairly large for the small solar controllers.

Morningstar with it's new 30amp TS-MPPT
Midnight also has a small 30amp controller

Not sure where all the controllers are being installed
Our little RV industry could not possibly be there primary market

time2roll
Nomad
Nomad
They have some smaller 24v panels for those going high voltage and MPPT but without space for the monster 40" x 65" panels.