โAug-03-2014 03:14 PM
โAug-04-2014 08:23 AM
MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
California, shop labor rate 110 dollars a hour, mechanic makes 50% Sorta pricey driving a few thousand miles to save 30 dollars an hour or so.
โAug-04-2014 07:52 AM
โAug-03-2014 07:16 PM
โAug-03-2014 07:12 PM
โAug-03-2014 06:56 PM
Bill.Satellite wrote:
I think this is just another of the many threads that MEXICOWANDERER posts in hopes of inciting a riot. Let it go folks. You see posts from people who are simply posting random thoughts on random topics as if they are an authority. I do believe that the "wanderer" just likes to wander and see how many folks will fall for his trap.
โAug-03-2014 06:55 PM
โAug-03-2014 06:53 PM
kcmoedoe wrote:3 tons wrote:I blissfully do know how much 17 yards of gravel is, and how many 5 gallon buckets it would take to move it, and approximately how much each of those buckets would weigh. It would take over 600 completely full buckets, each weighing in at nearly 100 lbs, to move 17 yards of common 3/4 minus gravel. Even at an unbelievably fast pace of 1 bucket every 5 minutes (fill, transport, empty, return, repeat no time to spread), it would take over 50 hours of non-stop hauling to move that pile bucket by bucket. So I guess you can say I am calling BS to the whole scenario you laid out.kcmoedoe wrote:3 tons wrote:I don't see the local day labor pool filled with fresh faced "Americano" college grads looking to do manual labor. Americanos either hire someone to do that manual labor of use the proper equipment to make the task efficient. Smart workers figure ways to get things done efficiently and economically. They don't move tons of gravel in 5 gallon buckets.kcmoedoe wrote:3 tons wrote:Perhaps it is because the "Americanos" are smart enough to know the difference between working hard, working smart and doing things that are just plain stupid. Moving 17 yards of gravel in 5 gallon buckets falls into the third category.
Per Mex: ..."Celso, the local mechanico shakes his head when i tell him stuff like this..."The Americanos, they must have too much money"...
This, A GREAT Observation...Your point is not lost on me Mex!! I might add that when I occasionally need a casual laborer I can't hardly find a gringo. About 15yrs ago, I hired a young College summer break kid once to help carry 5gal buckets of gravel along side of me for a parameter drain system, and he quit before the lunch break - to top this off, I'd even bought him the lunch of his choosing!! (LOL)...I ended up moving the remaining 17 yards alone...Hopefully, this one experience earned the lazy kid a Phd!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
So manual labor, at least as a 'beginners job' is just plain stupid??...And the "Mexacanos" take a back seat at figuring this all out??...(thus, it must be their own pre-ordained fault...)...Sounds to me like you might benefit from a bit of real work yourself!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
Yet in all your blissful presumption, you know 'zero' about the actual scope of the job, nor why it necessitated the aforementioned bucket transiting...'Life' must be Sweet, eh!!
3 tons
โAug-03-2014 06:50 PM
โAug-03-2014 06:44 PM
3 tons wrote:I blissfully do know how much 17 yards of gravel is, and how many 5 gallon buckets it would take to move it, and approximately how much each of those buckets would weigh. It would take over 600 completely full buckets, each weighing in at nearly 100 lbs, to move 17 yards of common 3/4 minus gravel. Even at an unbelievably fast pace of 1 bucket every 5 minutes (fill, transport, empty, return, repeat no time to spread), it would take over 50 hours of non-stop hauling to move that pile bucket by bucket. So I guess you can say I am calling BS to the whole scenario you laid out.kcmoedoe wrote:3 tons wrote:I don't see the local day labor pool filled with fresh faced "Americano" college grads looking to do manual labor. Americanos either hire someone to do that manual labor of use the proper equipment to make the task efficient. Smart workers figure ways to get things done efficiently and economically. They don't move tons of gravel in 5 gallon buckets.kcmoedoe wrote:3 tons wrote:Perhaps it is because the "Americanos" are smart enough to know the difference between working hard, working smart and doing things that are just plain stupid. Moving 17 yards of gravel in 5 gallon buckets falls into the third category.
Per Mex: ..."Celso, the local mechanico shakes his head when i tell him stuff like this..."The Americanos, they must have too much money"...
This, A GREAT Observation...Your point is not lost on me Mex!! I might add that when I occasionally need a casual laborer I can't hardly find a gringo. About 15yrs ago, I hired a young College summer break kid once to help carry 5gal buckets of gravel along side of me for a parameter drain system, and he quit before the lunch break - to top this off, I'd even bought him the lunch of his choosing!! (LOL)...I ended up moving the remaining 17 yards alone...Hopefully, this one experience earned the lazy kid a Phd!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
So manual labor, at least as a 'beginners job' is just plain stupid??...And the "Mexacanos" take a back seat at figuring this all out??...(thus, it must be their own pre-ordained fault...)...Sounds to me like you might benefit from a bit of real work yourself!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
Yet in all your blissful presumption, you know 'zero' about the actual scope of the job, nor why it necessitated the aforementioned bucket transiting...'Life' must be Sweet, eh!!
3 tons
โAug-03-2014 06:34 PM
kcmoedoe wrote:3 tons wrote:I don't see the local day labor pool filled with fresh faced "Americano" college grads looking to do manual labor. Americanos either hire someone to do that manual labor of use the proper equipment to make the task efficient. Smart workers figure ways to get things done efficiently and economically. They don't move tons of gravel in 5 gallon buckets.kcmoedoe wrote:3 tons wrote:Perhaps it is because the "Americanos" are smart enough to know the difference between working hard, working smart and doing things that are just plain stupid. Moving 17 yards of gravel in 5 gallon buckets falls into the third category.
Per Mex: ..."Celso, the local mechanico shakes his head when i tell him stuff like this..."The Americanos, they must have too much money"...
This, A GREAT Observation...Your point is not lost on me Mex!! I might add that when I occasionally need a casual laborer I can't hardly find a gringo. About 15yrs ago, I hired a young College summer break kid once to help carry 5gal buckets of gravel along side of me for a parameter drain system, and he quit before the lunch break - to top this off, I'd even bought him the lunch of his choosing!! (LOL)...I ended up moving the remaining 17 yards alone...Hopefully, this one experience earned the lazy kid a Phd!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
So manual labor, at least as a 'beginners job' is just plain stupid??...And the "Mexacanos" take a back seat at figuring this all out??...(thus, it must be their own pre-ordained fault...)...Sounds to me like you might benefit from a bit of real work yourself!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
โAug-03-2014 06:30 PM
rjxj wrote:Not to worry! If they are made by the op they will never get off the ground.3 tons wrote:westend wrote:
This thread started off in such a bad way, there is probably no good ending for it.
To demean a whole class of workers because you hate spending money on car repairs doesn't gain a lot of respect about the author's judgement.
Have you been skipping your meds, Mex?
I can't hardly believe the 'overreaction' to the OP...I took it merely as a matter of relative perspectives between folks in a less developed country vs those in our opportunity laden highly modernized society...Don't see a need to overthink it, just be glad for your GOOD Fortune!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
NO this thread will end with little drones buzzing us with diodes, resistors, transistors and all kinds of scrap electrical parts dropping on us.
โAug-03-2014 06:25 PM
3 tons wrote:westend wrote:
This thread started off in such a bad way, there is probably no good ending for it.
To demean a whole class of workers because you hate spending money on car repairs doesn't gain a lot of respect about the author's judgement.
Have you been skipping your meds, Mex?
I can't hardly believe the 'overreaction' to the OP...I took it merely as a matter of relative perspectives between folks in a less developed country vs those in our opportunity laden highly modernized society...Don't see a need to overthink it, just be glad for your GOOD Fortune!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
โAug-03-2014 06:21 PM
3 tons wrote:I don't see the local day labor pool filled with fresh faced "Americano" college grads looking to do manual labor. Americanos either hire someone to do that manual labor of use the proper equipment to make the task efficient. Smart workers figure ways to get things done efficiently and economically. They don't move tons of gravel in 5 gallon buckets.kcmoedoe wrote:3 tons wrote:Perhaps it is because the "Americanos" are smart enough to know the difference between working hard, working smart and doing things that are just plain stupid. Moving 17 yards of gravel in 5 gallon buckets falls into the third category.
Per Mex: ..."Celso, the local mechanico shakes his head when i tell him stuff like this..."The Americanos, they must have too much money"...
This, A GREAT Observation...Your point is not lost on me Mex!! I might add that when I occasionally need a casual laborer I can't hardly find a gringo. About 15yrs ago, I hired a young College summer break kid once to help carry 5gal buckets of gravel along side of me for a parameter drain system, and he quit before the lunch break - to top this off, I'd even bought him the lunch of his choosing!! (LOL)...I ended up moving the remaining 17 yards alone...Hopefully, this one experience earned the lazy kid a Phd!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
So manual labor, at least as a 'beginners job' is just plain stupid??...And the "Mexacanos" take a back seat at figuring this all out??...(thus, it must be their own pre-ordained fault...)...Sounds to me like you might benefit from a bit of real work yourself!!
Best Regards,
3 tons
โAug-03-2014 06:19 PM
westend wrote:
This thread started off in such a bad way, there is probably no good ending for it.
To demean a whole class of workers because you hate spending money on car repairs doesn't gain a lot of respect about the author's judgement.
Have you been skipping your meds, Mex?