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New Trailer with 50 amp service?

TexasUltra
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Our new (brand new) trailer has 50a service. We want to stop for a couple of nights on the way home from the dealer and the state park has only 30a spots. I think I can just use an adapter and only run one of the A/C units. Is this a correct assumption?
2015 Ford F-350 6.4 Power Stroke 4x4
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1991 Fleetwood Prowler 26 (SOLD)
2006 Weekend Warrior FS2300
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sgfrye
Explorer
Explorer
dpgllg wrote:
Progressive Industries EMS is a very good protection system. I have the portable unit and no issues.

You will need to get a 30 amp to 50 amp adapter as well.

The other comments about not running 2nd air and microwave are all valid. Just watch what things you are powering on.

I just spent the 4th of July at a 30 amp campsite and my 5th wheel is 50 amp. We had no electrical issues at all.

Dave



everything has already been said but yes, same results with us and the progressive ems

the ems has worked as it should for us a couple times on low voltage situations

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Hi,

I don't understand why you would need two adapters for the Hughes.

I use an autoformer partly because my RV is 30 amp. I always check polarity and voltage under load before I plug in my unit.

I do have an inverter/charger that does load support--but that doesn't mean it does voltage support.

There are autoformers from Mexico that can support 50 amp. I have the Sola Basic (4000 VA) which both boosts and bucks voltage.

The Hughes folks do have a 50 amp autoformer, which supports both legs of a 50 amp RV. To use it with 30 amp shore power, a 30 amp to 50 amp dogbone adapter would be needed. This would be a good item to own.

The reason for having an ems, on 50 amp, is the risk of having an open neutral. That can present up to 240 volts on one leg, causing damaged to most of the 120 volt devices on that leg. The EMS would disconnect, or prevent current flowing when plugging in.

Or, alternately it would be quite possible to have 140 volts on one leg, and just 100 volts on the other. If an air conditioner were run on the 100 volt leg, it may be permanently damaged, what's even worse, is, the damage can 'sneak up' on you, as the damage is cumulative.

Get a top of the line EMS from Progressive Industries.

There is much lower risk with a 30 amp RV and I have superior surge repression on the RV. I do most often run with the Sola Basic autoformer as low voltage damages a lot more RV's than high voltage.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

dpgllg
Explorer
Explorer
Progressive Industries EMS is a very good protection system. I have the portable unit and no issues.

You will need to get a 30 amp to 50 amp adapter as well.

The other comments about not running 2nd air and microwave are all valid. Just watch what things you are powering on.

I just spent the 4th of July at a 30 amp campsite and my 5th wheel is 50 amp. We had no electrical issues at all.

Dave
2013 2500HD Chevy LTZ 6.6 Diesel Ext Cab Long Bed
2017 Grand Design Reflection 27RL 5th Wheel
Dear Wife, plus two Cocker Spaniels and a Standard Poodle

2naEagle
Explorer
Explorer
TexasUltra wrote:
I'm looking at the HUGHES Autotransformer. It looks like I'll now need two adapters to use it.


A autoformer can come in handy if you run into a low voltage problem but it can not do what a EMS can. Get a progressive industries EMS. I prefer hardwired.
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Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Explorer III
Huges Autoformer just raises Line Voltage...not amps available
30A is 30A

50A RV on 30A (50A provides 6000W/per leg---12,000W and 30A is 3600W Total)
Place water heater on propane
1 A/C unit (shut down if wanting to use Microwave)
Is it time for your medication or mine?


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2007 HitchHiker II 32.5 UKTG 2000W Xantex Inverter
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Lwiddis
Explorer II
Explorer II
โ€œI think I can just use an adapter and ...โ€

Some basic RV electric reading should be in your immediate future. And dry camping is easy, fun....
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TexasUltra
Explorer
Explorer
I'm looking at the HUGHES Autotransformer. It looks like I'll now need two adapters to use it.
2015 Ford F-350 6.4 Power Stroke 4x4
2002 Excursion 7.3l PowerStroke (retired)
1991 Fleetwood Prowler 26 (SOLD)
2006 Weekend Warrior FS2300
2006 FLHTCUI UltraClassic Vivid Black
2000 FLSTF FatBoy Vivid Black
1995 EZ Go W/lift, mudders, and camo'd

ReneeG
Explorer
Explorer
Yes and all of the above.
2011 Bighorn 3055RL, 2011 F350 DRW 6.7L 4x4 Diesel Lariat and Hensley TrailerSaver BD3, 1992 Jeep ZJ and 1978 Coleman Concord Pop-Up for remote camping
Dave & Renee plus (Champ, Molly, Paris, Missy, and Maggie in spirit), Mica, Mabel, and Melton

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Hi,

I'd recommend getting an Ems if you don't already.

I tend to monitor my voltage constantly using a Kill-a-Watt meter.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

Hoppy220
Explorer
Explorer
Yes, just be careful about using electric water heater, and microwave at the same time as the 1 AC.

Beverley_Ken
Explorer
Explorer
Short answer. Yes

Ken
2006 Winnebago Outlook 29B E-450.
2012 Honda CR-V AWD
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