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The Official unofficial CPE 2000i Generator Thread

pritch272
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8/1/2010 edit: Thread renamed at the suggestion of the Professor.
Renamed from: Champion Inverter and Remote Gens Promo on CPE's web site)


3/22/2011 edit: Thread renamed ...
Renamed from: Official CPE 2000 Watt Inverter Generator Thread


3/23/2011 edit: Thread renamed at the suggestion of the Professor.
Renamed from: (Un)Official CPE 2000 Watt Inverter Generator Thread


Inverter Available August 2010



Remote Available July 2010

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Old___Slow
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Professor95,

Need some thunder here. In Googling the Champion name I see that Champion Spark Plugs is now part of the Federal-Mogul Corp. We seem to equate the great Champion name for the past 100+ years with quality. So several questions come to mind. How is Champion(CPE) associated with the Champion Spark Plug and Federal-Mogul? Any connection at all?? Now the next question at hand. ChampionR makes a plug for small engines named the "Champion EZ Start" The one tug Plug. My Champion? C46540 came with a plug now trashed, that I believe to have failed (the engine would not start)and has been replaced with one from AC......here is the question. Will you give us the Champion plug numbers that will fit our gens? And please pray tell why does not the Champion (CPE) gens come with a Champion spark plug:h

professor95
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MrRchitty wrote:
Not to take Professor's thunder.... but I had some time and ran the CPE 2000 with a 500 watt rated halogen lamp with an analog electric clock. The numbers are as follows: 122 volts @ 4.3 amps equates to 524 Watts. With a full tank of gas she ran for 9 hours 10 minutes and 20 seconds. The idle was increased slightly over nonload idle in eco mode.


Shucks, if that's all the thunder I have, you are welcome to it! :B

Seriously, I'm glad you took the time and effort to run the test. Thank You. Now I too know what to expect in fuel consumption. Which, BTW, is beginning to once again become a MAJOR issue as the cost of that gallon of liquid gold continues to rise.

Let's play with numbers for a moment. 524 watts x 550 minutes = 288,200 watt/minutes. Divide by 60 = 4,803 watt/hours. Divide by 1,000 = 4.8 Kilowatt/hours

Divide 4.8 into $3.08 (current cost of a gallon of regular here) = $.64 per KWH.
Professor Randy T. Agee & Nancy Agee. Also Oscar, the totally ruined Dachshund.
2009 Cedar Creek 5th Wheel - 2004 Volvo VNL670 class 8 MotorHome conversion as toter.
Turbocharged, 12L, 465 HP and 1,800 ft. Lbs. of torque.

Old___Slow
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MrRchitty wrote:
Not to take Professor's thunder.... but I had some time and ran the CPE 2000 with a 500 watt rated halogen lamp with an analog electric clock. The numbers are as follows: 122 volts @ 4.3 amps equates to 524 Watts. With a full tank of gas she ran for 9 hours 10 minutes and 20 seconds. The idle was increased slightly over nonload idle in eco mode.



Great. Now, you might go on to give us the low down on operating the Champion 2000i with, say, an 1100w Microwave. Then perhaps any 10a motor and maybe the RV converter/charger. Might as well tell us if the Champ really doesn't sound like it's screaming running full 1600w. 30 minutes or more. Thnaks, O&S

-_dwh_-
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MrRchitty wrote:
Not to take Professor's thunder.... but I had some time and ran the CPE 2000 with a 500 watt rated halogen lamp with an analog electric clock. The numbers are as follows: 122 volts @ 4.3 amps equates to 524 Watts. With a full tank of gas she ran for 9 hours 10 minutes and 20 seconds. The idle was increased slightly over nonload idle in eco mode.


So right on the money and the same as the Honda & Yamaha. Great! Thanks for the info.

MrRchitty
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Not to take Professor's thunder.... but I had some time and ran the CPE 2000 with a 500 watt rated halogen lamp with an analog electric clock. The numbers are as follows: 122 volts @ 4.3 amps equates to 524 Watts. With a full tank of gas she ran for 9 hours 10 minutes and 20 seconds. The idle was increased slightly over nonload idle in eco mode.
Randall J. Chittenden
CT
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Former Auto Parts Sales 12 years

cyclesico
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I would like to purchase one of these generators,not a cosco member ,I am located about an hour from windsor cosco,toledo oh. area.Thanks for any help

Old___Slow
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Well, we are doin' better, great balls of fire. I could go back in this thread and name quite a few drop-ins who fired a shot in the dark, to hit the mark of a promo and disappeared into the night. Never to be heard from again. It was mentioned they might have been 'sock puppets'~ But all that follow this thread, I do beleve, are looking for the real deal type folks to give honest reviews of what they find concerning the Champion 2000i. We wait for the full reviews of Microwave and motor use. It's been stated by one trusted poster that the Champion 2000i with the 79cc engine will not start a 6000BTU A/C, and even a question about the operation of the Converter/chargers... So the question is, maybe better perhaps to go with a nice quiet 1000i for at least battery charging? Just the facts ma'am, just the facts.

Charles_E1
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83trekker wrote:
Just FYI Costco canada in March has a $100 off coupon for this generator, its in the little winter coupon book they send out or you can pick up at the door at your local Costco.


Wow! I was just researching these (Champion 2000W) today after seeing them at Costco here in Mississauga. I never thought to check the coupon book I got from Costco a couple of months back.

YOU have just saved me $100. Thank you! Oh, another buddy who is going to get one just saved $100 too! If you are ever camping in Killbear park, Ontario, we owe you a steak with beer dinner!

MrRchitty
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Old & Slow wrote:
hummm,

We have had a few first timers here. No profile, no name or where you are located. No RV experience listed. Many we have not heard from in ages. Well, welcome to the forum. Maybe later you might give us more about yourself. For me I doubt some of the numbers you give. But this is a forum and we all have one. An opinion, that is..... That is what makes this world so interesting. Some will call me a name like, Doubting Thomas.


(Laughing and smiling here) I was so excited to buy the generator, start it, goof around and then jump back on the forum, sign up and report what I had. I didn't get a chance to do a profile. So, here it goes.

I have a 1999 Ford Expedition 135000 miles, underdrive pulleys installed, Superchips programmer and 3" exhaust, tent camped as a kid, and again in my early 20's. My wife won't tent camp so we got a 29' 2009 Springdale Travel Trailer 2 years ago with hard start capacitor installed on AC unit. Have 4 children, live in Connecticut where we do most of our camping, we have camped in Pennsylvania, Virginia, Georgia, Florida, OBX North Carolina, and dry camped in Vermont. I am a firefighter paramedic with a strong mechanical background. I became exposed to the Honda 2000i and desired to own one or the likes. Looking on ebay, I was sucked into an inverter type 3000 watt generator. It didn't live up to its advertised end of the bargain. Research on the internet proved my theory correct and eventually brought me here. It was posts similar to yours and other contributors that helped me make a decision to purchase the 2 Champion generators I have. I just want to give back. I will do side by sides with meters. The numbers I posted are real. I am not sure what you are doubting. Certainly willing to do Youtube videos. I will say, the Champion 2000i tells you the truth about its performance. Nothing exaggerated. The 3000 watt from ebay was over rated in my opinion. I got burned. Don't want anyone to get burned, that is all. I'll update profile later today. Cheers!
Randall J. Chittenden
CT
Fire/Medic
Former Auto Parts Sales 12 years

Old___Slow
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hummm,

We have had a few first timers here. No profile, no name or where you are located. No RV experience listed. Many we have not heard from in ages. Well, welcome to the forum. Maybe later you might give us more about yourself. For me I doubt some of the numbers you give. But this is a forum and we all have one. An opinion, that is..... That is what makes this world so interesting. Some will call me a name like, Doubting Thomas.

MrRchitty
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Hello. I have read through the 3000Watt Chinese Generator Forum over the last 18 months and now, have stumbled on this forum when I spotted the CPE 2000i Generator at Sam's club few months back. This forum helped me make an educated decision to purchase one. It was difficult, however, after purchasing the 3000Watt Gen on Ebay from East Coast Wholesale. It's claims, in my opinion were overstated. It would stall when trying to run 13500 AC and smaller inductive loads like a household refrigerator. In addition, it was a very loud generator despite the claims to be as quiet as the Honda or Yamaha versions.

So here it goes. I am a firefighter/paramedic and we use a Honda 2000i to operate a large ventilation fan after fires to remove smoke from a structure. The Honda works very well and is very quiet.

The Champion 2000 inverter generator is pretty similar in sound (from my memory, not side by side) I am impressed, actually. However, I feel that the sound from the Champion at higher rpms, 1500 Watt Load from a frier, is a bit louder (very tolerable). Quieter than the 3000 Watt from East Coast and in my opinion, worth the $499 going price. Certainly, if you buy 2 of the Champions with the parallel cable, it will run at lower rpms keeping the decibels down.

I did some small tests. One was two 500Watt rated lights (1000Watt total) and ran perfectly. I ran an old ceramic heater ( going back about 25 years, remember when they first came out by KEROSun). I plugged it into the Champion and its rpms revved up and about 4 seconds later the circuit breaker popped. I grabbed a newer model ceramic heater by HOLMES and plugged that in. I started at a low setting and ran it for 1/2 hour. Rpms were slightly increased. I then turned it up to high power and the rpms increased a little more. I ran it for 1 hour, no problems. I pulled the clamp meter out and returned to household power to find out why the first heater popped the breaker since both heaters were rated at 1500watts on their labels.
KEROsun drew 20 amps @ 116 volts =2320 Watts until the element got hot.
The amps decreased as it got hotter.
KEROsun hot and set on high was 13.4 amps @ 116 volts =1554.4 watts.

Holmes heater set on low started from 0 amps and increased. Once hot it settled in at 7.14 amps @ 116 volts =828.24 watts
High setting 10.25 amps @ 116 volts =1189 watts.

So, it was not the generator. It was the design and nature of the older ceramic heater (no safety features) where it started out at 20+amps and decreased it's demand, however, not fast enough before the generator popped its breaker.

So far, I am pleased with the sound produced from this generator, very easy to have a conversation along side of it, well worth the money at this point and plan on going for the second. I will conduct my own time test at 500 watts and report back.

If I may, I have the open synchronous gen by Champion 3500/3000 from Cabella's and have been very happy with it. It runs the 13500 AC and Microwave simultaneously. Just looking for less sound production.

And to all those who put in their time to report and to Professor who has put in so much on both forums, thank you. Wish I had come across this stuff prior to dumping over 300 bucks on the 3000 Watt by East Coast.
Randall J. Chittenden
CT
Fire/Medic
Former Auto Parts Sales 12 years

Old___Slow
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The common reason mosts folks give for needing and buying an Inverter, less noise and less weight. They win one of the two for sure.
I've seen some 2000i's listed running at as high as 5400 RPM with 74 dBA. Some describe the noise as 'screaming' running with full load. And how long could this unit operate runnig full tilt? My guess, the smaller the engine, the highest RPM is needed. I had high hopes the Champion 2000i would be 'the one to buy'

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Old & Slow wrote:
I hear the Honda 3000i is quiet with high output. Is this true?


There is a local burrito truck that I stop by pretty often because they make a great ceveche. They have a Honda 3000 inverter gen in a compartment on that truck. I have no idea what load it's running at, but even after dark when the truck is all lit up, that gen is pretty quiet.

For sure you can hear it when you are standing next to the truck, but at say, 10 paces, you don't even notice it.

vermilye
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Since I didn't get a bill for the change, I don't know what they did. I do know it involved replacing at least one circuit board which got the generator output closer to 60hz.

professor95
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vermilye wrote:
I had the same problem with a 15K Generac standby generator. The dealer installed a kit (for free) designed to make the generator work with the new high efficiency furnaces & now it works OK with the APC.


Do you have any more info on what the "kit" is?
Professor Randy T. Agee & Nancy Agee. Also Oscar, the totally ruined Dachshund.
2009 Cedar Creek 5th Wheel - 2004 Volvo VNL670 class 8 MotorHome conversion as toter.
Turbocharged, 12L, 465 HP and 1,800 ft. Lbs. of torque.