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Carbon ceramic pads question

scootsk
Explorer III
Explorer III
Hey all

Just ordered Power Stop carbon fiber ceramic severe duty truck& tow pads for my 2014 Ram 3500 CC LB dually. Most of the driving in that truck is towing out 14k lb. FW. My question, is it okay to use carbon fiber Ceramic pads with the stock rotors?
Don, Kathleen
2014 Ram 3500 Crew Cab 4x4 Dually 6.7 CTD/AISIN
2019 Montana 3791 Fifth Wheel
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Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
He is ahead $ by far for one reason, curiosity is another reason. Fact is he knows his engine is in good condition running these extended miles having a quality report to back it up. First long mileage was by accident. I really was cringing at what that test report was going to find.

I am NOT saying AMZ/OIL is better than other oils but I guarantee they are better than most. FYI they started the Synthetic Oil craze in the 70's. PenZoil was so threatened by them that the took AMZ/OIL to court over the "Z" and so the "S" now looks like a "Z" backwards.

If this sample comes back good to go then he can just change it at that mileage from now on. FYI he is a Landscape contractor and his truck gets driven 50 miles each way during the week pulling the landscape trailer so it's light duty for that engine.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

StonedPanther
Explorer III
Explorer III
FishOnOne wrote:
Looks like Stoned Panther (what the hell is that :E) is in the minority on this one. LOL :B

A lot of variables at play for brake pad life. I normally get ~120k miles on Motorcraft brake pads. I tow a 22ft boat quite often and a utility trailer with Deere tractor/shredder once in a while with both of them not having trailer brakes so that adds additional wear on the truck brake pads.


If being last in line in the brake life BS contest is the minority I'll wear that badge proudly. These guys that get 200K+ miles out of factory OEM pads are freaks of physics or something. They must be the guys that start stopping 1/2 a mile before the stop sign and coast for that 1/2 mile at 6 mph while 40 cars stack up behind them or drive 50 on the interstate when traffic is moving at 85 mph. Hard to believe the aftermarket brake parts companies like Raybestos and such stay in business ROFLMAO.

StirCrazy
Navigator
Navigator
cummins2014 wrote:


I am a low mileage guy oil change ,once a year now, along with fuel filters etc . As far as how far someone can go with any good quality oil ,it would probably match whatever AMZ/OIL will go .


I used to have a bypass oil filter on my 99, 7.3 and would go about 35000 miles between oil changes. The reason I did this was I used my truck to drive to work as well as pulling my 5th wheel and trailer before that. I would put approximately 30000 miles a year on it, so with the filter and oil sample analyzing to establish my new milage I could run before the oil needed changing (it ended up being much higher than 35K) it saved me about 800 a year in oil changes. The cool thing is at 35K the oil still looked clean. I switched to royal purple full synthetic. Now in my 6.7 it tells me when to change the oil, anywhere between 10 and 14K km depending on what the computer sees the truck doing, so I just go by that and run Rotella T6. I amso have a beater car for going to work now so the oil changes are not anywhere near as frequent.

Amsoil has been pushing the same claims for over 30 years and I have yet to see why they are better than any other.
2014 F350 6.7 Platinum
2016 Cougar 330RBK
1991 Slumberqueen WS100

cummins2014
Explorer
Explorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Make sure it has AMZ/OIL in it top to bottom.




Where's that API label 12V? Yeah... Another long story!


Not worth the cost.

How about my friends 13 RAM went 23 0r 24k and Blackstone said to go 1 or 2 k longer next time. He is at 28k now and I will show report when I get it if anyone is interested.



Not interested in the report ,but do have to wonder what is the point of pushing oil to that many miles , even going thru the hassle of getting an oil sample , getting it sent in , waiting for results etc etc .I know this subject has been beat to death , but it escapes me what is the reasoning. Only thing I could possibly think of is the health of the motor thru testing , IF something is suspected . Why not just 15K like Ram recommends , or reasonable amount of time like I do ?

I am a low mileage guy oil change ,once a year now, along with fuel filters etc . As far as how far someone can go with any good quality oil ,it would probably match whatever AMZ/OIL will go .

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Make sure it has AMZ/OIL in it top to bottom.




Where's that API label 12V? Yeah... Another long story!


Not worth the cost.

How about my friends 13 RAM went 23 0r 24k and Blackstone said to go 1 or 2 k longer next time. He is at 28k now and I will show report when I get it if anyone is interested.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Make sure it has AMZ/OIL in it top to bottom.




Where's that API label 12V? Yeah... Another long story!
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
Make sure it has AMZ/OIL in it top to bottom.


2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

scootsk wrote:
My goodness. I started this thread to find out if using carbon fiber ceramic pads are compatible with stock rotors. I never, in a million years, thought that it would cause the same stir as Ford v. Chevy v. Ram. Lol


imma going to finish reading this thread as soon as I get back from pulling my 43' fiver with my Rivian with semi metallic pads and Anderson hitch...
Me-Her-the kids
2020 Ford F350 SD 6.7
2020 Redwood 3991RD Garnet

Cummins12V98 wrote:
nickthehunter wrote:
An โ€œSโ€ and a โ€œZโ€ donโ€™t look anything alike - theyโ€™re total opposites.


There is history behind my sarcastic statement.


LONG HISTORY ! ! :B
Me-Her-the kids
2020 Ford F350 SD 6.7
2020 Redwood 3991RD Garnet

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
nickthehunter wrote:
An โ€œSโ€ and a โ€œZโ€ donโ€™t look anything alike - theyโ€™re total opposites.


There is history behind my sarcastic statement.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

nickthehunter
Nomad II
Nomad II
An โ€œSโ€ and a โ€œZโ€ donโ€™t look anything alike - theyโ€™re total opposites.

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
FishOnOne wrote:
Here's to 12V :B



I wonder why the "S" looks like a "Z",,,,,HMMMMMMM
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
MFL wrote:
I've never worn the brakes, to need replacement, before I replaced the vehicle, so can't add much here.

I will say my forum buddy 12v gives factual info!! Even his marketing is coming from experience that he believes in.

Jerry


Your a good man Charlie Brown!!!
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
Here's to 12V :B

'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"