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'15 Ford F450 vs RAM 3500 HD Extreme Towing Review

FishOnOne
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Enjoy... :B

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NC_Hauler
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Travlingman wrote:
NC Hauler wrote:
Travlingman wrote:
mrkoje wrote:
NC Hauler wrote:
RoyJ wrote:
How much did the Ram cost vs Ford?

I know the F450 is $74500, but I don't remember seeing the Ram's price. That's a better argument over this whole "badge" thing.

In the end, if it took Ford a $74500 truck to beat Ram's $64500 truck, then fail. But if on the other hand, the Ram's $80000, then fail for them.

Myself, I'd get a used Pete 379 or Kenworth W900 long before shelling out 6 figure (Canada) for the pickups.


Truck MSRP for my 13' (same truck as the 14), was $66,780 or somewhere there abouts., but 10,000 was taken off before incentives, rebates etc....ended up around $52K if memory serves me correctly..I have paperwork, will find it if need be.

Highest priced 2014 Ram 3500 DRW CC/LB/ 4X4's with Cummins/Aisin/4:10 at area dealer is sticker priced at $66,760 (this is loaded out Laramie), price before incentive, rebates, or any haggling....most have been getting 10K off as reported on the Cummins forum for the 14's, (as was with the 13's)

Have no idea what a 15' Ford loaded out F450 would cost...


FWIW - the highest price Ram you're going to see will barley break 70k MSRP. With that being said, take 8-9k off MSRP to get to invoice less holdback and then take the monthly incentives. Right now a 70k truck can be had for around 53-54k.


Drove a 3500 DRW Laramie Limited last weekend, sticker $71,650. Drove a Ford 350 DRW Platinum sticker was $69,000 and change. Chevy 3500 LTZ was around $67,000. All were loaded and had 3.73's. Was a good day of test driving.


Leave wherever it was that you were looking at the Ram truck, I haven't seen a Ram, 3500 DRW truck, even in Limited Edition on a lot for that much money..Seen one for 69,000#, it was a Laramie Limited with every bell and whistle one could order, but I haven't seen one that expensive in around this area, (SC, NC, TN..within 50 miles of Asheville area),and again, the one thing I noticed, in and around THIS aread, Ram's are easily discounted 8 to 10K off Sticker...Chevy LTZ and Ford sound about right, BUT, NOBODY pay's sticker....


Well, I am right across the mountain looking in Johnson City. Here is the link to the Ram sticker. It will be the same price no matter which side of the mountain I am on. Here is the Ford sticker. Ford didn't have 5th wheel prep, a few hundred dollar difference. Other than that, equiped about the same.


WOW...glad I didn't get to Johnson City....Got my best deal right here in Asheville at Skyland Automotive...Wonder how much that place comes off sticker? No wonder you own a Ford:)

Around here, Ford's, comparing apples to apples is normally the more expensive...
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larry_barnhart
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I like it or both of them.

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FishOnOne
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45Ricochet wrote:
WTF Troy, the walking ad man. Come on buddy, your better than the cheap chit your spulling. Must be hot in south texas area :B
Yeah I know, your busy fishin come Monday. Err maybe not :W


Rick,
Glad you enjoyed the video. :B
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

ib516
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Haven't watched the Mr truck videos, but he lost credibility with me when he endorsed the tornado fuel saver thingy. He's a bit low class and comes across as a bit thick.
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45Ricochet
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WTF Troy, the walking ad man. Come on buddy, your better than the cheap chit your spulling. Must be hot in south texas area :B
Yeah I know, your busy fishin come Monday. Err maybe not :W
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FishOnOne
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Here's some video's from Mr. Truck

Part 1

Part 2
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

AH64ID
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Cummins12V98 wrote:


I think RAM figures they are the only kid on the block with the "MEGA CAB" so take that part out of his MSRP and RAM probably would be less.


Mega's are only $1,000 - $1,200 more than the same level Crew Cab.
-John

2018 Ram 3500-SRW-4x4-Laramie-CCLB-Aisin-Auto Level-5th Wheel Prep-Titan 55 gal tank-B&W RVK3600

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Travlingman
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NC Hauler wrote:
Travlingman wrote:
mrkoje wrote:
NC Hauler wrote:
RoyJ wrote:
How much did the Ram cost vs Ford?

I know the F450 is $74500, but I don't remember seeing the Ram's price. That's a better argument over this whole "badge" thing.

In the end, if it took Ford a $74500 truck to beat Ram's $64500 truck, then fail. But if on the other hand, the Ram's $80000, then fail for them.

Myself, I'd get a used Pete 379 or Kenworth W900 long before shelling out 6 figure (Canada) for the pickups.


Truck MSRP for my 13' (same truck as the 14), was $66,780 or somewhere there abouts., but 10,000 was taken off before incentives, rebates etc....ended up around $52K if memory serves me correctly..I have paperwork, will find it if need be.

Highest priced 2014 Ram 3500 DRW CC/LB/ 4X4's with Cummins/Aisin/4:10 at area dealer is sticker priced at $66,760 (this is loaded out Laramie), price before incentive, rebates, or any haggling....most have been getting 10K off as reported on the Cummins forum for the 14's, (as was with the 13's)

Have no idea what a 15' Ford loaded out F450 would cost...


FWIW - the highest price Ram you're going to see will barley break 70k MSRP. With that being said, take 8-9k off MSRP to get to invoice less holdback and then take the monthly incentives. Right now a 70k truck can be had for around 53-54k.


Drove a 3500 DRW Laramie Limited last weekend, sticker $71,650. Drove a Ford 350 DRW Platinum sticker was $69,000 and change. Chevy 3500 LTZ was around $67,000. All were loaded and had 3.73's. Was a good day of test driving.


Leave wherever it was that you were looking at the Ram truck, I haven't seen a Ram, 3500 DRW truck, even in Limited Edition on a lot for that much money..Seen one for 69,000#, it was a Laramie Limited with every bell and whistle one could order, but I haven't seen one that expensive in around this area, (SC, NC, TN..within 50 miles of Asheville area),and again, the one thing I noticed, in and around THIS aread, Ram's are easily discounted 8 to 10K off Sticker...Chevy LTZ and Ford sound about right, BUT, NOBODY pay's sticker....


Well, I am right across the mountain looking in Johnson City. Here is the link to the Ram sticker. It will be the same price no matter which side of the mountain I am on. Here is the Ford sticker. Ford didn't have 5th wheel prep, a few hundred dollar difference. Other than that, equiped about the same.
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Cummins12V98
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NC Hauler wrote:
AH64ID wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
AH64ID wrote:
I just built a Mega Laramie Limited with EVERY option I could select. $73,635!!!

HOLY CRAP! I'm keeping my 05.


Since you are in Idaho call Dave Smith in Kellog and get a dose of reality on what the rig you specced would actually cost.


I'm not shopping, and have bought from Dave Smith before so I know the deal... Still MSRP has gotten a little out of control!!


Again, around this area, MSRP on Ford is higher, than Ram and Chevy go back and forth for 2nd./3rd in price...Been like that since I started looking at other trucks than Chevy, other being Ford until 2010....Dodge/Ram/Chevy were alway's cheaper than like Ford brand/model truck..


I think RAM figures they are the only kid on the block with the "MEGA CAB" so take that part out of his MSRP and RAM probably would be less.
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DirtyOil
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Again, around this area, MSRP on Ford is higher, than Ram and Chevy go back and forth for 2nd./3rd in price...



Same thing up here... for comparable equipped trucks, Ford and GM respectively $12,000.00 to $9,000.00 higher then Ram... another reason why I bought Dodge/Ram trucks, as no real difference in any of the 3 as far as capability goes,(at least in the late model years) other then price difference.
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NC_Hauler
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AH64ID wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
AH64ID wrote:
I just built a Mega Laramie Limited with EVERY option I could select. $73,635!!!

HOLY CRAP! I'm keeping my 05.


Since you are in Idaho call Dave Smith in Kellog and get a dose of reality on what the rig you specced would actually cost.


I'm not shopping, and have bought from Dave Smith before so I know the deal... Still MSRP has gotten a little out of control!!


Again, around this area, MSRP on Ford is higher, than Ram and Chevy go back and forth for 2nd./3rd in price...Been like that since I started looking at other trucks than Chevy, other being Ford until 2010....Dodge/Ram/Chevy were alway's cheaper than like Ford brand/model truck..
Jim & Kathy, (Boxers, Buddy & Sheba)
2016 Ram 3500 DRW Longhorn 4X4/CC/LB/Aisin/4.10/rear air assist ...Pearl White.
2016 DRV MS 36RSSB3/ W&D/ slide toppers/ DTV satellite/ 5.5K Onan propane gen.
B&W RVK3600 Hitch
Fulltiming in WV & TX
USAF 71-75 Viet Nam Vet

AH64ID
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
AH64ID wrote:
I just built a Mega Laramie Limited with EVERY option I could select. $73,635!!!

HOLY CRAP! I'm keeping my 05.


Since you are in Idaho call Dave Smith in Kellog and get a dose of reality on what the rig you specced would actually cost.


I'm not shopping, and have bought from Dave Smith before so I know the deal... Still MSRP has gotten a little out of control!!
-John

2018 Ram 3500-SRW-4x4-Laramie-CCLB-Aisin-Auto Level-5th Wheel Prep-Titan 55 gal tank-B&W RVK3600

2011 Outdoors RV Wind River 275SBS-some minor mods

Cummins12V98
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AH64ID wrote:
I just built a Mega Laramie Limited with EVERY option I could select. $73,635!!!

HOLY CRAP! I'm keeping my 05.


Since you are in Idaho call Dave Smith in Kellog and get a dose of reality on what the rig you specced would actually cost.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

AH64ID
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NC Hauler wrote:
AH64ID wrote:
I just built a Mega Laramie Limited with EVERY option I could select. $73,635!!!

HOLY CRAP! I'm keeping my 05.


Let me know if you actually pay that much, but we don't see very many Mega cab's around here, mostly crew cabs...again, sticker doesn't mean much with Ram, that's been my experience, but maybe they're getting the big head now:)


While there are people who pay sticker without blinking an eye, I am not one!!

We see a few Mega's around here, but very few DRW Mega's.

Sticker is still sticker, and that's what I think the previous post was referencing.
-John

2018 Ram 3500-SRW-4x4-Laramie-CCLB-Aisin-Auto Level-5th Wheel Prep-Titan 55 gal tank-B&W RVK3600

2011 Outdoors RV Wind River 275SBS-some minor mods