โOct-28-2017 06:50 PM
โNov-02-2017 06:11 AM
โNov-02-2017 01:10 AM
carringb wrote:ShinerBock wrote:
I never heard them say that they felt it was "out of control" either.... :?
In fact, they even stated at the very end that the F150 was fine for that amount of weight for people who don't tow it very often.
Well clearly all our trucks are inferior because all of the highways in Australia are steeper, longer, and higher. And they must drive much faster than the measly 75 MPH speed limit in Colorado.
โNov-01-2017 08:06 AM
โNov-01-2017 06:31 AM
demiles wrote:
They made it clear that the F150 suspension had issues handling that much weight even when it was setup using a scale to assure proper loading. So now consider the average Joe connecting his travel trailer which may be less overall weight but just as much tongue weight. They commented how tight they had to make the WD bars and Joe has to do the same. The outcome for Joe just might be worse than than what they experienced with controlled loading. Visit the f150 forums and youโll see that a lot people complain about instability of some type with this truck. Theyโll spend thousands in replacing tires, shocks, install airbags/Timbrens, and sway bars they to get a decent ride. I wanted to like this truck for towing but those complaints really turned me off from buying it.
โNov-01-2017 02:30 AM
โOct-31-2017 03:18 PM
ShinerBock wrote:
I never heard them say that they felt it was "out of control" either.... :?
In fact, they even stated at the very end that the F150 was fine for that amount of weight for people who don't tow it very often.
โOct-31-2017 02:22 PM
Lessmore wrote:
I watched the video test a couple of days ago. My impression was that the testers didn't say or imply that the the Ford ".. was out of control..." as you have indicated. My view was that they felt that the Nissan exhibited more stability in it's ability to control the trailer movement...as compared to the F 150.
Using the phrase 'out of control' paints a picture of a vehicle that is completely unstable .
โOct-31-2017 02:16 PM
RobertRyan wrote:carringb wrote:RobertRyan wrote:
Maybe. Ford says the Pickup passes the J2807 standard for towing that weight,Going By the results either the standard is not representative or Ford is making a bad call on it's compliance.
Having to brake 9 times compared to twice on the Titan XD on a fairly moderate gradient and feeling you had little control, suggests something is pretty wrong.
It towed it, didn't it? J2807 has no requirements for engine braking. They did not overheat their brakes or lose any braking performance, so I'd say it worked as intended. I'm not saying engine braking only isn't nice, but it certainly isn't necessary, especially for somebody who buys a truck for only occasional towing.
Just 12 years ago, a stock Cummins diesel would have required the service brakes even more.
Fellows who did it felt it was out of control. Luckily it was on a modest gradiant
โOct-31-2017 01:58 PM
carringb wrote:RobertRyan wrote:
Maybe. Ford says the Pickup passes the J2807 standard for towing that weight,Going By the results either the standard is not representative or Ford is making a bad call on it's compliance.
Having to brake 9 times compared to twice on the Titan XD on a fairly moderate gradient and feeling you had little control, suggests something is pretty wrong.
It towed it, didn't it? J2807 has no requirements for engine braking. They did not overheat their brakes or lose any braking performance, so I'd say it worked as intended. I'm not saying engine braking only isn't nice, but it certainly isn't necessary, especially for somebody who buys a truck for only occasional towing.
Just 12 years ago, a stock Cummins diesel would have required the service brakes even more.
โOct-31-2017 07:47 AM
โOct-31-2017 07:07 AM
โOct-31-2017 06:48 AM
RobertRyan wrote:
Maybe. Ford says the Pickup passes the J2807 standard for towing that weight,Going By the results either the standard is not representative or Ford is making a bad call on it's compliance.
Having to brake 9 times compared to twice on the Titan XD on a fairly moderate gradient and feeling you had little control, suggests something is pretty wrong.
โOct-31-2017 06:47 AM
RobertRyan wrote:carringb wrote:RobertRyan wrote:ShinerBock wrote:
They should have tested the F150 HD versus the Titan XD.
No, the specs said that version of the F150 could do it. It was certainly fast up the climb
However there's an option for more payload available, and would have matched or bettered the payload of the Nissan XD. Keep in mind the XD is Nissan's high payload option. You don't think comparing similar payloads is a better comparison?
Maybe. Ford says the Pickup passes the J2807 standard for towing that weight,Going By the results either the standard is not representative or Ford is making a bad call on it's compliance.
Having to brake 9 times compared to twice on the Titan XD on a fairly moderate gradient and feeling you had little control, suggests something is pretty wrong.
โOct-31-2017 04:36 AM
RobertRyan wrote:
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Ford says the Pickup passes the J2807 standard for towing that weight,Going By the results either the standard is not representative or Ford is making a bad call on it's compliance.
Having to brake 9 times compared to twice on the Titan XD on a fairly moderate gradient and feeling you had little control, suggests something is pretty wrong.