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2500 v 3500 and Chain Requirements

mtofell1
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Here's a funny one I found today in my state or Oregon - 10,000# GVWR and under, traction tires can take the place of chains. Over 10,000# you have to chain up like commercial vehicles.

I know from all the debating that some states have registration things that vary between 2500 and 3500 trucks but Oregon doesn't so this was a bit of a surprise. I guess I'm happy I have a 2500 and snow tires.

Here's the link: https://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/Chain-Law
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ktmrfs
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From ODOT



Exemptions
In typical winter conditions, the following vehicles are completely or partially exempt from the chain law. However, in very bad winter road conditions all vehicles may be required to use chains regardless of the type of vehicle or type of tire being used (this is known as a conditional road closure). A conditional road closure may occur on any of Oregon's highways and are frequent in the winter on Interstate 5 through the Siskiyou Pass south of Ashland:

Police vehicles, and fire vehicles, ambulances, and Department of Transportation highway maintenance vehicles when performing their duties.
A four-wheel or all-wheel drive passenger vehicle if all of the following statements are true:
It has an unloaded weight of 6,500 pounds or less;
It is operated to provide power to both the front and rear wheels;
It is carrying chains;
It has mud and snow, all-weather radial, or traction tires on all of its wheels;
It is not towing another vehicle or a trailer;
It is not being operated in a manner or under conditions that cause the vehicle to lose traction.
Utility company vehicles, such as water, power, or heat, when providing emergency response services.
A bus that is over 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight (GVW) due only to accessibility modifications for disabled persons is exempt from the chain requirements for vehicles rated over 10,000 GVW unless it is towing or being towed.
Motorcycles are exempt from the requirement to carry chains or traction tires and may not travel when chains or traction tires are required on all or certain vehicles.

note that the exemption for 4wd ONLY applies to vehicles with GVW under 6500lbs, However this seems to conflict with signage since sinage usually says over 10,000lbs.

and there are times where chains are required of all vehicles.
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Super_Dave
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I'm gonna bet this is the same on all Federal highways. I was stopped at a mountain pass once when it started snowing. I had chains for the truck but not the boat. I had to sit and wait it out. Luckily it was only a couple of hours before they let us through.
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wnjj
Explorer II
Explorer II
Iโ€™ve commented on this thing before and itโ€™s not a coincidence that my older 3500 SRW is 9900 GVWR.

There are/were also signs along I-5 in Washington about 10k lbs and left lane (of 3) driving.

More goes into GVWR than โ€œengineering.โ€

enblethen
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It is not only the truck, but truck and trailer, MH and toad, and any vehicle over 10,000.
In the case of MH and toad, if the toad has an auxilary braking system, you must install drag chains on toad.
Years ago, I was in line up near Ashalnd Oregon. Troops were stopping evryone to see if they had chains in vehicle. This served one good purpose. It spaced vehicles out going over the pass.

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mtofell1
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ktmrfs wrote:
In Oregon either way you need to carry chains. Seldom do they check but if weather is really bad on the sisiyous or mt hood they do occasionally stop everyone and either make you chain up or show them your chains if your exempt from chain up. Occasionally they have required ALL vehicles to be chained up. Normally 4wd with snowflake tires is ok.


This is what I had always remembered as the rule, and carrying the chains is, of course, always the best practice. I just never realized the dividing line was at 2500 to 3500 trucks. It makes sense that they have to draw the line somewhere but in reality it's pretty funny that the line is drawn between two basically identical trucks.

And, for the purposes of this thread, I'm only talking about the trucks and not towing (my 5th wheel will be firmly planted beside my house while I roll over Mount Hood tomorrow).

My other learning point for here in Oregon is the signage I see on the state website (link I posted originally). The only sign I remember about chains is, "chains required." I don't ever remember seeing things differentiating vehicles by size class/weight. Aside from the signs with "chains" I always see the warnings of "traction tires/devices". Granted, it's been quite a few years since I had reason to travel over the passes here regularly so I understand things might have changed and I didn't notice it.

As I digest the information and read the responses here I realize I'm somewhat ignorant of how the game is played.

ktmrfs
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In Oregon either way you need to carry chains. Seldom do they check but if weather is really bad on the sisiyous or mt hood they do occasionally stop everyone and either make you chain up or show them your chains if your exempt from chain up. Occasionally they have required ALL vehicles to be chained up. Normally 4wd with snowflake tires is ok.
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Me_Again
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Maybe that is why in 11 years of going South in the winter that we went to the coast rather than risk the Siskiyous about three or four times. Always did fine head North. One year on April 1st we cross the pass the only day it did not snow that week. Chris
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Grit_dog
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Sounds like another good reason to de badge your truck ifnits a srw!
I wonder though, donโ€™t really see the enforcement on Snoqualmie pass for light duty vehicles if theyโ€™re 4wd.
Not sure Iโ€™ve ever seen a dually pickup chain up either.
But lettter of the law....
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rhagfo
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enblethen wrote:
You must carry chains if you are over 10,000 even with chains.
You must have drag chains for trailer as well.
Washington traction requirements


Oregon is almost identical.
Oregon Chain Laws

I believe once you are towing the 10,000# rule is mute.
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ppine
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Best to have chains for all 4 wheels on your TV and not do much towing in the snow.

enblethen
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You must carry chains if you are over 10,000 even with chains.
You must have drag chains for trailer as well.
Washington traction requirements

Bud
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blt2ski
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Washington goes by paid for gvw. So if you have a 15, 25, 35 or whatever series, with a paid for gvw tag over 10,000 lbs, and or pulling a trailer where the sum of the two units is over 10,000 gvw....you better be chained up accordingly. Whether you are 4wd or not.
I would suggest anyone do the same in ANY of the mountain passes of the western US.

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Bedlam
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It is the same if you travel north to WA. I used to be able slip through with my F250 and now have chain up my 5500.

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