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3/4 vs 1 ton .

batavia02
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3/4 ton duely vs 1 ton srw, what are the pros and cons of each.I know you can't ever too much truck but.in this case the truck will also be the daily driver.yes we are looking at a diesel,.5th wheel max weight is 17k at most.thanks
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krobbe
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smkettner wrote:
I have never seen a good reason to buy a 3/4 ton or 250/2500 series truck.
And yet they sell like crazy...

Um... Because they didn't make the Suburban in a 1Ton version? ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Paul_Clancy
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Certainly the differences are closer now than in 09 when I bought new. What hasn't changed is tax, license and hoa rules that often (not always)treat 1 ton as commercial wether they are or not.

Slownsy
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Just bought 2015 F350 crew cab short box it has TPM and Stability control.
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ktmrfs
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Paul Clancy wrote:
Some advantages when I bought my 09 2500hd over 3500hd.
Tpms
Stability control
Short bed crew cab
All above not avail on 3500hd srw or drw


For 2015 crew cab std (short) box IS available in the 3500 as is a crew cab long box. I looked at some when we were deciding what to get. Most on the lot's are long box, but std (short) box is available. IIRC the 2015 SRW 3500 has TPMS and stability control, the dually does not.

For the life of me don't know why mfg went from short and long box to std and long box

Interestingly my 2015 Sierra Denali is a 2500, but 2500 or 3500 all the badging says is GMC and Denali. Nowhere on the vehicle does it say 2500. You have to look at the VIN number or moroney sheet to see it is a 2500.
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Cummins12V98
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"Someone farts, vehicle would be overloaded"

One would think that would lighten the load.:B
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mlts22
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I am in a different position than the OP, but I was looking at similar, mainly about trading in my half-ton in for a daily driver the same length.

The 2016 Ford F-250 was about the same price as a F-350... but it didn't have the capacity to haul the truck camper I want to get, unless I went with two wheel drive, and it would be cutting things close. Someone farts, vehicle would be overloaded.

The 2016 Ford F-350, configured with a gasser engine, short-bed, extended cab, which would be about 17 feet in length would be the ideal for my needs. It would do 4250 pounds at most... but good enough.

Everything else, this model year, is the same, except for the springs and weight ratings. However, since my insurance company knows how much my truck can carry, and knows the weight of any truck camper (or can easily look it up), I always error on the weight police side to be safe.

The main reason for a gasser -- my commute is urban, and gas is a lot easier to find than diesel, especially at most places where the diesel pumps are the edge spots... which are the first taken. Plus, when hauling gasoline, the same fuel can be used in the truck's tank or the portable generator's.

Paul_Clancy
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Some advantages when I bought my 09 2500hd over 3500hd.
Tpms
Stability control
Short bed crew cab
All above not avail on 3500hd srw or drw

IdaD
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smkettner wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
smkettner wrote:
I have never seen a good reason to buy a 3/4 ton or 250/2500 series truck.
And yet they sell like crazy...
Could be lots of buyers are on the fence between a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton. If you barely need a 3/4 ton why get a 1 ton?
The body size is the same, price is negligible, payload is far superior.
Why avoid the 350/3500 SRW?

What is the compelling advantage of 250/2500?


They're cheaper buy, can be cheaper to register in some areas, can be subject to fewer restrictions in some areas, and in commercial applications they don't trigger the 10k+ GVWR hoops. And in the case of the Ram, the coil suspension has a much nicer unloaded ride and it handles better. To some people those are compelling advantages, to some they aren't.

Personally I got a 3/4 ton because I don't need the extra rated capacity of the 1 ton and I liked the ride/handling balance with the coils a lot better. It's particularly nice offroad, which was important to me because I see a lot of unpaved miles in the summer and fall. The extra capacity of a one ton would be pointless in my case because any trailer in that size range is too big to get into the spots I like to camp. To me camping isn't pulling off the highway, parking on a patch of pavement and plugging my trailer into an outlet. ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Bedlam
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When I bought my F250 in 2005, I needed something to tow a bumper pull toy hauler. There was no advantage to getting a SRW F350 since almost all the components were shared on my truck and the tow capacity was the same. At the time, I compared the SRW F350, Excursion and F250 for my needs and found the F250 to be the best value with no degradation for my intended use.

When I bought my truck camper in 2012, I could have benefited from the F350's 2" taller rear axle blocks and a long bed. However, I didn't think I was ever going to get a truck camper or fifth wheel at that time plus I still would have been limited to the same actual usable payload since the components were almost identical.

My current truck is a 5500. We are looking truck campers that weigh 3 tons and plan on towing over 4 tons behind us so we need the payload capacity. I could ask the same question anyone that bought F350 DRW why they didn't just buy a F550 since it is the same size and payload is far superior. The truth is that people will buy what they need or want and each choice has advantages and disadvantages.

BTW: Here are some advantages to the 3/4t trucks -
1. Less licensing restrictions if used commercially
2. Less vehicle licensing if your state charges by GVWR
3. Less initial purchase cost
4. Allowed in the most restrictive communities where a 1t is viewed as commercial
5. The Ford model sits lower and clears a 7' tall garage opening
6. The GM model is available in short bed extended cab

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time2roll
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goducks10 wrote:
smkettner wrote:
I have never seen a good reason to buy a 3/4 ton or 250/2500 series truck.
And yet they sell like crazy...
Could be lots of buyers are on the fence between a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton. If you barely need a 3/4 ton why get a 1 ton?
The body size is the same, price is negligible, payload is far superior.
Why avoid the 350/3500 SRW?

What is the compelling advantage of 250/2500?

Grit_dog
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rhagfo wrote:
smkettner wrote:
I have never seen a good reason to buy a 3/4 ton or 250/2500 series truck.
And yet they sell like crazy...


Taxes and registration cost in many states!It also seems it gets very costly with our northern neighbors.


Buying new, I agree.
If buying used then IMO, it's more about the condition, miles etc than 2500 or 3500 on the fender.
Other than some of the recent trucks, they historically are the same truck with varying payload capacity, spring rate.
My 2500 thinks it's a 4500 when it gets this big pig of a camper dropped in its bed!
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goducks10
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smkettner wrote:
I have never seen a good reason to buy a 3/4 ton or 250/2500 series truck.
And yet they sell like crazy...


Could be lots of buyers are on the fence between a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton. If you barely need a 3/4 ton why get a 1 ton?

rhagfo
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smkettner wrote:
I have never seen a good reason to buy a 3/4 ton or 250/2500 series truck.
And yet they sell like crazy...


Taxes and registration cost in many states!It also seems it gets very costly with our northern neighbors.
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lakefinder
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batavia02 wrote:
I am the op and no that wasn't what I was asking.I did appreciate all the comments, I figured some one would catch that sooner or later.I was asking, just to recap, can I,,use 3/4 ton or must it be a one ton duel .yes it will be diesel.and cc.5th wheel.will be 15500 max weight. 41is length. Columbus 385 bh.


I tow a very similar trailer. 41'+ Elkridge bunkhouse, GVWR 15500. I was towing this with a 2008 F350 CC SRW shortbox. I needed air bags, but it towed beautifully and straight. The only time I ever felt like I needed more truck was on mountain descents (didn't have exhaust brake) and in stiff cross winds.

I replaced the truck last fall with a '15 F350 DRW. I still needed air bags (I swear these springs are the same as my SRW). In nice weather on flat ground - I can't tell the difference between the 2 trucks. My SRW probably pulled straighter (less steering correction). Descending from a 10,000'+ elevation or cross-winds, I really notice the difference. More stability on banked corners and exhaust braking is much better. I climb the hill easier also, much more power, but the old one did it too. MPG are worse in the DRW, about 1-2mpg.