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6.0l 301,112 miles

bigburg
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Just returned from a trip and she is at 301,112 miles. She is a 2005 6.0l F250 CC 4x4. At 298,XXX miles I had to replace the radiator due to puncture from road debris, 296,XXX I replaced all bushings and ball joints and axle seals on the front plus u joints. I had a failed u joint but figured I would replace other items while I had the time. Overall she has been reliable with the only break downs being an egr cooler, FICM and vacuum pump for engaging front hubs. Still running factory injectors but plan to replace this summer as prevention. Also still on factory head gaskets. No tune but I run her hard towing and running trails in the mountains. Hope to check back in at 400,000 with good news but I do realize I'm lucky to have gotten this far with so few issues.
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Bionic_Man
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Explorer
Bedlam wrote:
More than 2 million Navistar and Ford tuned 6.0's were produced in five years. I don't see them overwhelming the scrap yards, so where would all these bad engines or empty engine bay trucks go?

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f23/how-many-6-0-were-built-158774/

Let's put that in perspective: Cummins took 23 years to produce 2 million engines for Chrysler...

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2012/12/cummins-makes-its-2-millionth-engine.html
https://cumminsengines.com/pickup-truck-cummins-ram-history


Do you have a data source other than a Ford forum for how many engines were produced? I didn't seen any links to data on the thread you posted.

400,000 per year for 5 years seems.........optimistic.
2012 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW CC 4x4 Max Tow, Cummins HO, 60 gallon RDS aux fuel tank, Reese 18k Elite hitch
2003 Dodge Ram 3500 QC SB 4x4 Cummins HO NV5600 with Smarty JR, Jacobs EB (sold)
2002 Gulf Stream Sea Hawk 29FRB with Honda EV6010

Fordlover
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Explorer
Grit dog wrote:
They’re still on the road Bedlam. With the value of trucks, even the older ones are worth fixing still vs scrapping.
I love the “I see them all the time so the rumors about them sucking is false” comments.
JV partner in AK on the Slope was still running a bunch of 6.0 Fords in their fleet due to the diesel emissions/ options with other brands etc.
They also had about half as many old pre emissions Duramaxes.
Their shop had most of a wall lined with 6.0 Diesel engines sitting on the floor. Some rebuilt some blown.
I asked how many Duramax engines they had stocked up. The equipment manager laughed and said theyd replaced a few that got dusted or run out of oil or otherwise damaged. But the 6.0s provided their mechanics a lot of paychecks!

And fwiw, the equipment guys up there said they’d have been running Dodge Cummins all along but dodge didn’t offer a CC/LB until 2010.
When I was up there, Ram had just added DeF. Fleets we’re getting switched out to them. That’s how I ended up with a fleet of Rams instead of Powdersmokes.


See OP, I knew it wouldn't take long for someone to come on and tell you how terrible your truck is, and how there is a 0% chance you'll make it past 50K miles without being on your third engine...Oh wait..

Great job working that 6.0 and also maintaining and caring for it. Thanks for reporting your real world experience.
2016 Skyline Layton Javelin 285BH
2018 F-250 Lariat Crew 6.2 Gas 4x4 FX4 4.30 Gear
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 6 speed daily driver
Retired 2002 Ford Explorer 4.6 V8 4x4
Sold 2007 Crossroads Sunset Trail ST19CK

blofgren
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Good for you, OP! I am truly happy for you.

I loved my 2003 F-350 SC 4x4 DRW Lariat and would probably still have it if it didn't have the 6.0L. In less than 110k miles it had an injector, FICM, head gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets, 2 turbo cleanings, 2 EGR valves, countless computer reflashes, ball joints, rear axle seals, and a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting. The truck was extremely well maintained with all Motorcraft filters, had an EGR delete (after the 2nd EGR valve), coolant filter, and was babied, although worked with our 30' fifth wheel at the time. At the time I moved on from it, it had a bedplate oil leak that was making a constant mess in the garage, a bunch of weak injectors, and a failing oil cooler. It got to the point where we were nervous travelling far from home with it so it was time to go.

Not trying to rain on your parade but I don't think my experience was unique.....
2013 Ram 3500 Megacab DRW Laramie 4x4, 6.7L Cummins, G56, 3.73, Maximum Steel, black lthr, B&W RVK3670 hitch, Retrax, Linex, and a bunch of options incl. cargo camera
2008 Corsair Excella Platinum 34.5 CKTS fifth wheel with winter package & disc brakes

FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
Bird Freak wrote:
Anyone else notice all the naysayers are the same old tired Fiat boys?


We all do...

I owned a 05 6.0PSD for 7 years and 170k miles. Replaced the EGR valve every 80k miles, replaced CAC tube/oil leak, and a reflash. There was no doubt in my mind that truck was good for another easy 150k miles, but the new truck bug got the best of me.
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

filrupmark
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One of those 6.0's is sitting in my garage right now. Ours is stock and serviced properly. It has been a great truck . Great fuel mileage and plenty of power . We love it .Thats why we still have it.
2004 Ford F250 Super Duty 6.0 Diesel, Bilstein 4600 Shocks, 16K B&W Patriot, Michelin M&S
2014 Augusta Flex AF34RS Trailair Tri Glide pinbox,
JT Strong Arms , Bridgestone R250'S, KYB Monotube Gas shocks
Finally a smooth ride !!!

Bird_Freak
Explorer II
Explorer II
Anyone else notice all the naysayers are the same old tired Fiat boys?
Eddie
03 Fleetwood Pride, 36-5L
04 Ford F-250 Superduty
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Old coach 04 Pace Arrow 37C with brakes sometimes.
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We love 56 T-Birds

FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
Grit dog wrote:
They’re still on the road Bedlam. With the value of trucks, even the older ones are worth fixing still vs scrapping.
I love the “I see them all the time so the rumors about them sucking is false” comments.
JV partner in AK on the Slope was still running a bunch of 6.0 Fords in their fleet due to the diesel emissions/ options with other brands etc.
They also had about half as many old pre emissions Duramaxes.
Their shop had most of a wall lined with 6.0 Diesel engines sitting on the floor. Some rebuilt some blown.
I asked how many Duramax engines they had stocked up. The equipment manager laughed and said theyd replaced a few that got dusted or run out of oil or otherwise damaged. But the 6.0s provided their mechanics a lot of paychecks!

And fwiw, the equipment guys up there said they’d have been running Dodge Cummins all along but dodge didn’t offer a CC/LB until 2010.
When I was up there, Ram had just added DeF. Fleets we’re getting switched out to them. That’s how I ended up with a fleet of Rams instead of Powdersmokes.


LOL... Yeah... OK

'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

Grit_dog
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They’re still on the road Bedlam. With the value of trucks, even the older ones are worth fixing still vs scrapping.
I love the “I see them all the time so the rumors about them sucking is false” comments.
JV partner in AK on the Slope was still running a bunch of 6.0 Fords in their fleet due to the diesel emissions/ options with other brands etc.
They also had about half as many old pre emissions Duramaxes.
Their shop had most of a wall lined with 6.0 Diesel engines sitting on the floor. Some rebuilt some blown.
I asked how many Duramax engines they had stocked up. The equipment manager laughed and said theyd replaced a few that got dusted or run out of oil or otherwise damaged. But the 6.0s provided their mechanics a lot of paychecks!

And fwiw, the equipment guys up there said they’d have been running Dodge Cummins all along but dodge didn’t offer a CC/LB until 2010.
When I was up there, Ram had just added DeF. Fleets we’re getting switched out to them. That’s how I ended up with a fleet of Rams instead of Powdersmokes.
2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5” turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

Bedlam
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More than 2 million Navistar and Ford tuned 6.0's were produced in five years. I don't see them overwhelming the scrap yards, so where would all these bad engines or empty engine bay trucks go?

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f23/how-many-6-0-were-built-158774/

Let's put that in perspective: Cummins took 23 years to produce 2 million engines for Chrysler...

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2012/12/cummins-makes-its-2-millionth-engine.html
https://cumminsengines.com/pickup-truck-cummins-ram-history

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Lessmore
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Explorer II
mkirsch wrote:
Even with the above-average rate of failure of the 6.0, the VAST MAJORITY of them have still been trouble free.



How do you know that.." the VAST MAJORITY of them have still been trouble free? "

Bionic_Man
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Explorer
When I opened this thread I was sure it was going to be about a GM truck.

OP, I am glad that your truck has treated you well. And I hope you make it more than 400k.

To those that are stating that the “vast majority” of 6.0s are good I would like be to see some statistics that support (or disprove) that. The resale market makes me think you are not correct.
2012 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW CC 4x4 Max Tow, Cummins HO, 60 gallon RDS aux fuel tank, Reese 18k Elite hitch
2003 Dodge Ram 3500 QC SB 4x4 Cummins HO NV5600 with Smarty JR, Jacobs EB (sold)
2002 Gulf Stream Sea Hawk 29FRB with Honda EV6010

Grit_dog
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Navigator
Bingo, it’s made out that they’re all junk, but they’re not.
However given 2 comparable trucks, would you like the 0.3% probability of lifting a head or a 30% probability.
The other stuff was/is more easily remedied, but even if one has a “good” one, they are also more needy about maint than their other 2 competitors.
They’re like the 6.5GM of the next generation of diesels.

That said, if A person needed a big bad diesel and had a seriously limited budget and great mechanic skills, the 6.0 is the truck that fits the bill. Solid/arguably best chassis. Very good 5speed auto. Ability to make great power. Caveat being have to be prepared for a needy truck.
If I had under $20k to spend on an azz kicking diesel right now today, I’d try to find a 6.0 with low miles for the same $ as all the ragged out high mile Dmax and Cummins running around and set aside a few grand to bulletproof it.
2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5” turbo back, 6" lift on 37s
2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

mkirsch
Nomad II
Nomad II
Even with the above-average rate of failure of the 6.0, the VAST MAJORITY of them have still been trouble free.

Problem is, it's not the good ones that are for sale.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

bigburg
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Explorer
Bedlam that was a nice set up you had there.
I always have been tell me how terrible my truck is and that its going to blow up on me and often its total strangers while at the gas station. Most of the time I just look at them and smile.
I keep up on oil changes and everything which has helped. When I drive her I work her hard not to the point of abuse but I do push her.
I don't have any additional filtration for oil or coolant. At times I kick the idea of getting a 6.7L but then I think about the payment and I snap out of it.

vacuumbed
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Every time I’m out, I see 6.0 Ford trucks driving around, busting bugs. They’re not as bad as people make them out to be.