anyone relocate their spare tire?
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-23-2015 08:13 PM
I have heard of horror stories of bumpers falling off with a bike rack. The bumper looks pretty stout with a vertical weld the length of the bumper and a horizontal weld on the I part of the frame. I was thinking maybe if I relocated my spare tire it would take some of the stresses off the bumper to help prevent any welds breaking.
But the question is where? Putting it in TV will add to my payload and I will surely forget it at home one day. Putting in front storage will only add to the tongue weight which I am trying to reduce.
the bottom is sealed or I would look for a place to mount it to underneath.
no ladder so i can't mount it on the roof.
Inside storage is limited to areas of 23" so that wont work.
Any thoughts? Anyone relocate it?
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-25-2015 06:19 AM
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 05:12 PM
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 01:12 PM
Safe travels.
2014 Surveyor Sport 220RBS
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 12:11 PM
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 10:28 AM
myredracer wrote:
.....The problem with hanging stuff off the bumper is that the rear end of a TT bounces a lot, and some more than others. The hitch ball/coupler acts as a pivot point and every time you hit a dip or bump in the road, the rear end shoots up like a catapult.
My rack has a threaded insert that you screw the bolt into through the pin hole. It makes it solid and doesn't bounce like others I have seen.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 09:57 AM
coolbreeze01 wrote:
Search Bal-hide-a-spare.
That's the way to go. I even bought a second one to carry my Smart Tote 2 portable waste storage tank.
I did need to mod it a little but super place to put a 35 gallon waste tote.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 08:41 AM
Check with your TT manufacturer. The max. load on a bumper is typically 100 lbs. The problem with hanging stuff off the bumper is that the rear end of a TT bounces a lot, and some more than others. The hitch ball/coupler acts as a pivot point and every time you hit a dip or bump in the road, the rear end shoots up like a catapult. If you add things to the bumper, the added dynamic stress can eventually lead to the bumper separating and your bikes or other stuff can be left miles and miles behind on the road. You simply can't see what's happening at the back of a TT.
If you really think you want to do this, go take a look at some trailers that come from the factory with a carrier on the back like Nash, Keystone and KZ (likely others too) and see how they have reinforced things to take the added stress/load. I would also suggest adding shocks to the TT to reduce vertical movement. Some frames that come on TTs are very weak to start with and there's no way I'd worsen things by mounting a rack at the rear otherwise you can eventually end up with some serious frame issues.
Increasing TW is not an issue unless you will exceed the TV payload capacity. Being over 15% in itself causes no issues and if anything, will improve handling. If you have nowhere to put bikes in your TV or inside the TT, I would suggest a carrier over the tanks, which are available.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 06:12 AM
20150611_205328 by RoyBelluomini, on Flickr
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 06:09 AM
coolbreeze01 wrote:
Search Bal-hide-a-spare.
That is pretty sweet.
SoundGuy wrote:RoyBell wrote:
Putting in front storage will only add to the tongue weight which I am trying to reduce.
Why? Have you actually measured your trailer's gross tongue weight so you know what it's average gross tongue weight to gross trailer weight is? When you add a bike rack and bikes so far to the far rear of any trailer, even a longer one, it's going to want to unload the tongue so in most cases you'd want to be adding weight to the tongue, not subtracting from it. Years ago I ditched the rear bumper bracket on our Spree and moved the spare tire to the front storage compartment and in doing so managed to achieve just under 14% gross tongue weight. Our current Freedom Express came with the spare mounted under the A frame so I moved it back slightly to the front storage compartment and this time lost a bit of gross tongue weight which is now running a bit lighter than I'd like, most often ~ 13%. Weighing both the trailer and measuring it's gross tongue weight with the trailer loaded as it typically would be for camping is key when making any changes that could affect the trailer's gross to gross tongue weight balance.
I haven't weighed mine yet, but Sticker says 6000lbs. Brochure says TW is 745, dry weight 5700 lbs. So it's 13% from the factory already. Any weight added to the trunk is going to put a lot more on the tongue than the axle. Same with the bumper. Anything on the bumper will not be a direct 1:1 vs putting it in front storage. Not sure what the spare weighs, but I suppose it can't be a whole lot. Maybe front storage isn't so bad.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 05:50 AM
2015 Arctic Fox 25Y
2015.5 GMC 2500HD Denali Duramax
ProPride 3P 1400# WDH
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 05:35 AM
2013 Premier Bullet 31 BHPR 2014 F350 Crew Cab 6.2L 3.73
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 05:29 AM
Son Brandon 17yrs
Daughter Marissa 16yrs
Dog Bailey
12 Forest River Georgetown 350TS Hellwig sway bars, BlueOx TrueCenter stabilizer
13 Ford Explorer Roadmaster Stowmaster 5000, VIP Tow>
A bad day camping is
better than a good day at work!
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 04:12 AM
RoyBell wrote:
Putting in front storage will only add to the tongue weight which I am trying to reduce.
Why? Have you actually measured your trailer's gross tongue weight so you know what it's average gross tongue weight to gross trailer weight is? When you add a bike rack and bikes so far to the far rear of any trailer, even a longer one, it's going to want to unload the tongue so in most cases you'd want to be adding weight to the tongue, not subtracting from it. Years ago I ditched the rear bumper bracket on our Spree and moved the spare tire to the front storage compartment and in doing so managed to achieve just under 14% gross tongue weight. Our current Freedom Express came with the spare mounted under the A frame so I moved it back slightly to the front storage compartment and this time lost a bit of gross tongue weight which is now running a bit lighter than I'd like, most often ~ 13%. Weighing both the trailer and measuring it's gross tongue weight with the trailer loaded as it typically would be for camping is key when making any changes that could affect the trailer's gross to gross tongue weight balance.
2014 Coachmen Freedom Express 192RBS
2003 Fleetwood Yuma * 2008 K-Z Spree 240BH-LX
2007 TrailCruiser C21RBH * 2000 Fleetwood Santa Fe
1998 Jayco 10UD * 1969 Coleman CT380
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Mute
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Report Inappropriate Content
โJun-24-2015 12:26 AM
coolbreeze01 wrote:
Search Bal-hide-a-spare.
Now that is slick:C and looks like an excellent solution IMO.:B
Larry
RAINKAP INSTALL////ETERNABOND INSTALL