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Anyone towing with the '17 F150 and 10 speed?

johndeerefarmer
Explorer III
Explorer III
If you are towing with the new ecoboost and 10 speed tell us how you like it, what you are towing and fuel economy.

Thanks
2020 Ford 350 6.7 PSD & 2017 F150 3.5 EB max tow
GD Reflection 29rs
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jerem0621
Explorer II
Explorer II
Nice truck and nice Fiver. I had to look the trailer up....it's a beautiful model.

Thanks!

Jeremiah
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RinconVTR
Explorer
Explorer
johndeerefarmer wrote:
Groover wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
You must have the Heavy Duty tow package with those LT tires. Makes sense towing your 5th wheel. Should be a good combo.


While the LT tires are standard on the max payload package (not tow package) they are an available option on all 4 wheel drives. I special ordered them on my 4wd max tow package 2016 F150. My biggest problem towing heavy is that the truck is a little light in the rear partly because of the aluminum body. I have to be careful taking off from a stop not to spin the tires. Also, I have to watch sharp turns offroad going down hill as the trailer tries to push the back end of the truck into a jacknife.


I have the max tow package and specifically ordered the LT tires.



Man, I sure hope you mean "max payload" package as well as "max tow". They are two different packages and you will NEED max payload towing that GD 5th.

johndeerefarmer
Explorer III
Explorer III
lly-zf6 wrote:
Made the first trip this weekend. About 60 miles each way, some 2 lane about 35 miles interstate pulling ~ 7400 lbs bumper hitch.

The truck shows 9.2 mpg on the lie-o-meter.
The 10 speed was flawless. Ran in 8th @ 70. Would drop to 7th on the hills at about 2600 rpm. Way more power than my 5.3 Chevy.

Adding Timbrens helped with the loose feeling. I think whats left is being caused by the junk p-series Goodyears that are on the truck.


What kind of hills? Percentage slope? My '17 would drop to 5th towing a Polaris General on a '12 trailer in the rolling hills of SE Oklahoma
2020 Ford 350 6.7 PSD & 2017 F150 3.5 EB max tow
GD Reflection 29rs

blackgrizz550
Explorer
Explorer
lly-zf6 wrote:
Made the first trip this weekend. About 60 miles each way, some 2 lane about 35 miles interstate pulling ~ 7400 lbs bumper hitch.

The truck shows 9.2 mpg on the lie-o-meter.
The 10 speed was flawless. Ran in 8th @ 70. Would drop to 7th on the hills at about 2600 rpm. Way more power than my 5.3 Chevy.

Adding Timbrens helped with the loose feeling. I think whats left is being caused by the junk p-series Goodyears that are on the truck.


I too came from a 5.3 Chevy. The torque difference is incredible. Especially when towing.

lly-zf6
Explorer
Explorer
Made the first trip this weekend. About 60 miles each way, some 2 lane about 35 miles interstate pulling ~ 7400 lbs bumper hitch.

The truck shows 9.2 mpg on the lie-o-meter.
The 10 speed was flawless. Ran in 8th @ 70. Would drop to 7th on the hills at about 2600 rpm. Way more power than my 5.3 Chevy.

Adding Timbrens helped with the loose feeling. I think whats left is being caused by the junk p-series Goodyears that are on the truck.

johndeerefarmer
Explorer III
Explorer III
Groover wrote:
johndeerefarmer wrote:
Groover wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
You must have the Heavy Duty tow package with those LT tires. Makes sense towing your 5th wheel. Should be a good combo.


While the LT tires are standard on the max payload package (not tow package) they are an available option on all 4 wheel drives. I special ordered them on my 4wd max tow package 2016 F150. My biggest problem towing heavy is that the truck is a little light in the rear partly because of the aluminum body. I have to be careful taking off from a stop not to spin the tires. Also, I have to watch sharp turns offroad going down hill as the trailer tries to push the back end of the truck into a jacknife.


I have the max tow package and specifically ordered the LT tires.


That probably cost a mile or two per gallon but I like mine. I suspect that I was the first to specify them on the new body style. I got mine at no extra cost but a couple of weeks after my order went in they changed to a $395 option. I feel that nobody had bothered putting a price on it until they actually got an order and realized how much work they were going through for no cost. At least it makes me feel good believing that I got a deal on them.


My '11 came with P metric and I switched out after about 500 miles. I went with the Goodyear Wrangler AT's and saw no noticeable decrease in fuel economy. I have had these tires on everyone of my F150's. Other than a piece of wire puncturing the sidewall of one last year I haven't had any trouble
2020 Ford 350 6.7 PSD & 2017 F150 3.5 EB max tow
GD Reflection 29rs

Groover
Explorer II
Explorer II
johndeerefarmer wrote:
Groover wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
You must have the Heavy Duty tow package with those LT tires. Makes sense towing your 5th wheel. Should be a good combo.


While the LT tires are standard on the max payload package (not tow package) they are an available option on all 4 wheel drives. I special ordered them on my 4wd max tow package 2016 F150. My biggest problem towing heavy is that the truck is a little light in the rear partly because of the aluminum body. I have to be careful taking off from a stop not to spin the tires. Also, I have to watch sharp turns offroad going down hill as the trailer tries to push the back end of the truck into a jacknife.


I have the max tow package and specifically ordered the LT tires.


That probably cost a mile or two per gallon but I like mine. I suspect that I was the first to specify them on the new body style. I got mine at no extra cost but a couple of weeks after my order went in they changed to a $395 option. I feel that nobody had bothered putting a price on it until they actually got an order and realized how much work they were going through for no cost. At least it makes me feel good believing that I got a deal on them.

johndeerefarmer
Explorer III
Explorer III
Groover wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
You must have the Heavy Duty tow package with those LT tires. Makes sense towing your 5th wheel. Should be a good combo.


While the LT tires are standard on the max payload package (not tow package) they are an available option on all 4 wheel drives. I special ordered them on my 4wd max tow package 2016 F150. My biggest problem towing heavy is that the truck is a little light in the rear partly because of the aluminum body. I have to be careful taking off from a stop not to spin the tires. Also, I have to watch sharp turns offroad going down hill as the trailer tries to push the back end of the truck into a jacknife.


I have the max tow package and specifically ordered the LT tires.
2020 Ford 350 6.7 PSD & 2017 F150 3.5 EB max tow
GD Reflection 29rs

Groover
Explorer II
Explorer II
goducks10 wrote:
You must have the Heavy Duty tow package with those LT tires. Makes sense towing your 5th wheel. Should be a good combo.


While the LT tires are standard on the max payload package (not tow package) they are an available option on all 4 wheel drives. I special ordered them on my 4wd max tow package 2016 F150. My biggest problem towing heavy is that the truck is a little light in the rear partly because of the aluminum body. I have to be careful taking off from a stop not to spin the tires. Also, I have to watch sharp turns offroad going down hill as the trailer tries to push the back end of the truck into a jacknife.

rowekmr
Explorer
Explorer
22 mpg avg that sure did get my attention! My FIL has an 12 F150 Ecoboost that I occasionally drive/tow with and its pretty efficient but 22 mpg that is great for a truck.
blackgrizz550 wrote:
We have a 2017. I did a 700 mile road trip empty this weekend and averaged 22 MPG hand calculated.

I've only towed our Rockwood 2702ss once. Plenty of power and the transmission did a nice job slowing the truck down when it came time to stop.

It was very windy that day and it did not feel as stable as the 2007 Sierra with air bags that I have previously. I need to get more trips in before I make a fair assessment.
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goducks10
Explorer
Explorer
You must have the Heavy Duty tow package with those LT tires. Makes sense towing your 5th wheel. Should be a good combo.

johndeerefarmer
Explorer III
Explorer III
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
I would look at the tires before adding bags. Did you have the tires aired to the max PSI on the tire sidewall? You said you have LT load range C on the rear? I will assume you have the same on the front as well? If not then you need to do so.

The 2017 f150 with the EB & ten speed should handle that trailer without any issues at all. There are guys on here claiming their older EB f150 is towing over 10,000# like a breeze. So something is definitely wrong here.

Don


Goodyear Wrangler LT "c" all the way around. I have towed the same trailer with my '15 F150. I am mainly seeking input on how the new 10 speed and more powerful ecoboost does since I haven't gotten to try mine out yet
2020 Ford 350 6.7 PSD & 2017 F150 3.5 EB max tow
GD Reflection 29rs

brulaz
Explorer
Explorer
SpeakEasy wrote:
brulaz wrote:
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

...
The 2017 f150 with the EB & ten speed should handle that trailer without any issues at all. There are guys on here claiming their older EB f150 is towing over 10,000# like a breeze. So something is definitely wrong here.
...




Had an issue with the 1st-2nd gears on steep, slow descents with our 6 spd Ecoboost. Another gear in there might have helped.


What kind of "issue?"


Not enough engine braking in second gear with trailer going down long, steep, windy road with many 20mph hairpin turns. Ended up over-heating the trailer and truck brakes.

At times, first gear would keep the speeds down perhaps too much, or would get close to over-revving the engine otherwise. Perhaps gearing in between first and second would have worked better.
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SpeakEasy
Explorer
Explorer
brulaz wrote:
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

...
The 2017 f150 with the EB & ten speed should handle that trailer without any issues at all. There are guys on here claiming their older EB f150 is towing over 10,000# like a breeze. So something is definitely wrong here.
...




Had an issue with the 1st-2nd gears on steep, slow descents with our 6 spd Ecoboost. Another gear in there might have helped.


What kind of "issue?"
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