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Best MOTOR OIL test web site ever?

RinconVTR
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Explorer
I've been reading about various oils for over 25 years and have never shared a web site or document other than my own UOA's until today, when I came across this web site. WOW! It's a long read...various test results begin eventually.

https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-ranking/
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Turtle_n_Peeps
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Good read, thanks for the link Rincon! ๐Ÿ™‚
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Nate1979
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RinconVTR wrote:
Oh pardon me... bobistheoilguy is THE place for straight answers, eh guys? So sorry. (No I'm not)

Anyone posting that is clearly delusional. They people at that site are simply more passionate than those found in most other forums. A few are knowledgeable, but its very difficult to know who they are. I've been a member there for well over a decade, thru a couple changes of ownership.

Its easy to throw stones at this Rats testing, and I honestly did not expect it here. But until I am shown something better than what he has done, responses ridiculing the guy are non-sense.

So...lets see your web site link(s) that bests Rats test blog.

I'll wait...


His tests are nonsense and I'm not going to waste my time repeating it any more. Good luck. Trolls continue to post his junk on site after site.

RinconVTR
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allen8106 wrote:
I'm not that impressed, just some clown engineer trying to make a name for himself with less than scientific, back room garage methods.


His tests and commentary are good reads but you wont find me defending the guy.

For example, he weighs in on extended drain intervals and discredits anything over 5k, while his own UOA tests prove he can go much longer than 5k. That is very illogical for a data oriented engineer.

Still...there is a lot more test data than I've ever seen. So in all seriousness, if you know of a site with more data oriented information than this one, by all means please share it.

allen8106
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I'm not that impressed, just some clown engineer trying to make a name for himself with less than scientific, back room garage methods.
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RinconVTR
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Dup

RinconVTR
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Oh pardon me... bobistheoilguy is THE place for straight answers, eh guys? So sorry. (No I'm not)

Anyone posting that is clearly delusional. They people at that site are simply more passionate than those found in most other forums. A few are knowledgeable, but its very difficult to know who they are. I've been a member there for well over a decade, thru a couple changes of ownership.

Its easy to throw stones at this Rats testing, and I honestly did not expect it here. But until I am shown something better than what he has done, responses ridiculing the guy are non-sense.

So...lets see your web site link(s) that bests Rats test blog.

I'll wait...

Nate1979
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fj12ryder wrote:
"Rat's test are in absolutely no way representative of any internal combustion engine condition and are in no way relevant at all to motor oil." Why would you say that? Not defending the site, just curious as to why you think that.


The test is nonsense and doesn't represent any way any part in the internal combustion engine. This test device is commonly called a one armed bandit and is commonly used by slick salesman to dupe people. Even Pert plus shampoo does great in this ridiculous test.

Here is a thread for your enjoyment.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3854023/540_Rat_oil_tests

fj12ryder
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"Rat's test are in absolutely no way representative of any internal combustion engine condition and are in no way relevant at all to motor oil." Why would you say that? Not defending the site, just curious as to why you think that.
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Nate1979
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I'm not sure you are serious. The rat blog oil "tests" are ridiculed on Bobistheoilguy.com (which is a real oil enthusiast website). Rat's test are in absolutely no way representative of any internal combustion engine condition and are in no way relevant at all to motor oil. What is weird is that trolls show up on a regular basis under new user names and post that thread on the site trying to push it as relevant.

fj12ryder
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It kind of supports my totally informal results from a couple different oils I tried. Both Castrol Diesel oil and Rotella Triple T are rated further down the scale than Delvac 1300. I send in a sample from my oil changes on my Cummins and the reports when I was using those oils were less than stellar. When I switched back to Delvac, I've had nothing but glowing reports.
Howard and Peggy

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RinconVTR
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fj12ryder wrote:
There was an interesting point made about the differences between diesel specific motor oil and high performance engine motor oil. I don't know how much weight to give his findings since anybody can put anything on "paper" and call it research, but certainly sounds reasonable.


Ah, you caught that! Yes, interesting indeed.

And also agreed, the whole this is overkill for daily drivers, but may be not so much those who intend to keep their vehicle 200-400k miles.

Its possible that picking a better performing oil off this list for the same cost or less than you're paying today becomes a win-win.

And there some equally interesting some points regarding 5w-30 oils greatly out performing common diesel grades like 5w-40 and 10w-40. While at the same time, may be not enough to suggest switching if your current results are doing just fine.

Regardless of the report/blog, I still rely on UOA's to tell me what I'm doing and choosing is working out well. There will always be a dozen or more fine options at any given grade oil, but one could perform slightly better than another when analyzed after being run in your specific engine and conditions.

fj12ryder
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There was an interesting point made about the differences between diesel specific motor oil and high performance engine motor oil. I don't know how much weight to give his findings since anybody can put anything on "paper" and call it research, but certainly sounds reasonable.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"

JIMNLIN
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but in all honestly I think it's a bit overkill for a daily driver.

LOL....yeah after 20 min of reading it still didn't tell me anything.
The author needs to condense his findings.
However I'm old school and will continue to use what lubes my engines likes best and 200k-400k miles of trouble free service. And no I'm not brand loyal....lots of excellent engine oils out here.
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FishOnOne
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Thanks... I'll take a look.
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