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Brand New Buyer Looking for Sound Advice

JWeaverCMA
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Hey everyone!

My family has grown to the point that tent camping just isn't feasible and I am looking to buy my very first travel trailer in the next year or so and I am looking for advice from experienced trailer owners. I am 100% new to towing and trailer ownership and I don't feel like the dealers are steering me in the right direction when it comes to trailers that will be right for my experience level.

I would like to know some basics- What brands to buy and what to avoid, hidden costs, what sort of gear I'll be packing with me and any other advice that will be useful.

I drive a Ford F150 with a 5.0 V8 and our family will be growing to 5 this September. I'm looking for a bunkhouse style trailer that can be used for anything between overnighters to extended road trips.

At this point, any advice will be useful. Thanks guys.
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aclay
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As others have said, I'd worry about the truck. We started with a Jayco 26 BH. I have 3 growing boys and two small dogs. That trailer was crowded. We towed it with a GMC Yukon XL with a 5.3L. We were very near our limit. It seems that many of us just make the plunge without really thinking ahead... as many stories on here will tell you.

I'd advise to get everyone their own bed and not have to worry about converting tables/couches every night. Also, a slide out will make a world of difference, especially with that many people. Just think about the mornings... everyone starts moving. Kids want something to eat and start moving forward, mom and dad want coffee and the bathroom and start moving aft (I was in the Navy!). It just gets crowded.

If you can't upsize the truck there are some options. There is a Lance that is lighter weight with 3 bunks in the back. There are a few jayco's as well.

Last thought- it's not all about moving the trailer. Max GVW and payload are important, but the thing most people don't think about is stopping. Stay under your weight ratings.
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rbpru
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Explorer II
Here is some hard numbers for you.

My Dutchman Lite has a Dry weight of 5000 lbs. It is 6200 lbs. across the CAT scales when loaded for travel. I pull it with and E-Boost F-150 4x4 with a max cargo of 1411 lbs. on the door sticker.

* Mom, Pop and Dog are 400 lbs.
* Fiberglass truck cap is 200 lbs.
* Tools, gas can, camp chairs and other gear in the bed is 100 lbs.
* Loaded TT tongue weight is 700 lbs.
TOTAL weight 1400 lbs.

I have a Blue Ox hitch and the combination is a dream to pull.

I doubt you will be much different than this, but do not depend on your math calculation, load your tow vehicle with all the things you cannot live without and take it across the CAT scales. That will tell you how much tongue weight you can add.

Good luck and do not be surprised if the numbers add up quicker than you think.
Twenty six foot 2010 Dutchmen Lite pulled with a 2011 EcoBoost F-150 4x4.

Just right for Grandpa, Grandma and the dog.

LVJJJ
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My first reaction was that you don't have a big enuff TV to be able to tow a TT that will comfortably fit your family.

Also reminded me that I was in the same position as you when we started RV'ing in 1987. Got tired of tenting in the rain (Pacific NW) with 3 kids. Bought a well used 1973 19' Prowler, turned out neither our 1965 Chevy Van nor our 1978 Aspen Station wagon would pull it. So, had a 292 6 cyl engine, TH350 trans installed in the Van and towed with it 90,000 miles since, usually 24' TT's. (Took it all the way back to Mt. Rushmore and down to Disneyland) So, we made the age old mistake, bought the TT before thinking about what the TV could tow.

Recently made the same mistake 29 years later (will I ever learn?). After towing our 4300 lb 2004 22' Tahoe Lite to Bend OR last year in 100 degree temps with the van that has no A/C, we realized it was time to upgrade the TV, one with A/C.

At the time I thought the Tahoe weighed less than 3500 lb loaded (shoulda weighed it first), and since we wanted to have a smallish TV so wife could drive it around, in December we bought a 2004 Envoy with the 4.2 6 ci, 3.42 gears. Much to my surprise the Envoy (a loaded w/every option 4x4 cream puff) weighs 5000 lbs. The max tow rating is 5,000 lbs and total combined vehicle weight is 10,000 lbs. So we were almost at max rating right off the bat. Did tow a couple of times and it was just "ok" but really struggled up 6% Stevens Pass (2nd gear, 4,000 rpm at 53 mph).

So, had to jump back on the internet for next 3 months until we finally found a cream puff low mileage super clean 1994 GMC Suburban 1500 with 350 engine. Has tow package. It's rated to tow 7500 lbs, so it does the job. It is a half ton but so was the Chevy Van. 1/2 tons usually have a higher tow rating than similarly equipped 3/4 tons since they are lighter. It has no trouble towing the 4300 lb TT.

I think if your TT gets above 5,000-6.000 lbs unloaded, you should get a 3/4 ton truck with a larger engine than the 5.0. My old 292 6 cylinder van would out pull that, got to have a lot of torque to get the massive weight started. Those little V-8's rely on high rpm's to develop power which stresses the engine and transmission a lot. When we had a 30' Arctic Fox we towed it with a 1988 454 3/4 ton Suburban.

Oh yeah, I also recommend the Equal-I-zer hitch, takes all of the sway and therefore most of the fear out of towing. Used them for years.

Welcome to the club and I hope you find something that will fit all your needs and will be SAFE hauling your precious cargo around. You can't be safe and protect your family if you cut corners.

It's a good idea to listen to us old timers who are still around, we've apparently done something right, or have been very lucky, or both.
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Golfcart
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My best advice to give you is take your time and figure out exactly what YOU want, not what the salesman wants to sell you.

When I bought my trailer i was very happy with what they sold me, until my family started growing lol I realized pretty quickly I should have planned further ahead and bought a bigger trailer
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JWeaverCMA
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rexlion wrote:
If you liked tenting, why not look at popups or hybrids? A popup has plenty of bunk space but folds to a short, easy to tow package that will fit in small forest campsites and will use much less gas.


I want something for 3 season camping with A/C and heating for the wife and kids.

So my payload is 1473 lbs on the truck. That seems reasonable as long as I'm not loading additional cargo in the truck beyond family, car seats and snacks.

NYCgrrl
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Pay more attention to construction than layout and cosmetics.

goducks10
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rbpru
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Make sure the tow vehicle, floor plan and cost are all compatible.

Rent a model similar to what we think you want. A week or 10 days of travel and camping will tell you what you want to know. It is not cheap but neither is the wrong TT.
Twenty six foot 2010 Dutchmen Lite pulled with a 2011 EcoBoost F-150 4x4.

Just right for Grandpa, Grandma and the dog.

JWeaverCMA
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rexlion wrote:
If you liked tenting, why not look at popups or hybrids? A popup has plenty of bunk space but folds to a short, easy to tow package that will fit in small forest campsites and will use much less gas.


We're looking for something that will be good for 3 seasons in varied environments with extra space for the kiddos. Also the wife wants A/C.

Jebby14
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pay attention to what these fine folks are saying about weights. You will be limited by payload. I know I am. advertised towing capacities and trailer weights are just a mythical number. I would also HIGHLY recommend not buying new. Look for a used unit in good condition you will save a fortune and minimize the loss should you decide that trailer isn't right for you. I was a long time tent camper until the we had our first child. wife said if I wanted to camp get something with a washroom. The camper in my sig was bought for 2k Canadian and on the road and safe and equipped for 3k Canadian.
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TurnThePage
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And be careful with those RV salesmen! Not all bad, but definitely not all good either. Most of them really don't know their products very well, and will fill the conversational voids with BS.
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TurnThePage
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Other considerations:
1) One of the worst things to happen to RV owners, especially new ones is water damage from roof/window leaks. If left unchecked, it could total your new toy in only a couple years. Many people assume a new trailer will be just fine, and they'll get to it later. NOT SO! Get on a ladder and start inspecting! Lots of good info available here how to perform preventive leak maintenance.
2) Do you camp in organized camp grounds/parks? Or do you like to get off the beaten path and boondock? The length and ground clearance of your chosen trailer will come into play then. So will the size of your holding tanks. People with sinks and toilets often take some time to learn water conservation. Along these same lines, if you camp away from it all, you may need a second battery. Lots of good reading here on that subject too.
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boosTT
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Start by determine your weights and what you can tow. Then go to an RV show.

coolmom42
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fdwt994 wrote:
My recommendation- get an Equalizer brand hitch. Don't let the dealership choose one for you. Much better hitch than what I normally see on the roads and really not much more expensive, if at all. I've used both so this comes for personal experience.

Also, like others have explained, do your homework on weights. Don't allow a salesperson or a well-presented camper persuade you to go against your better judgment.

Good luck


I agree with this, absolutely.
Single empty-nester in Middle TN, sometimes with a friend or grandchild on board