The topic about COG got closed for reasons I don't have to understand, but IMHO it shows how little owners understand the technical issues.
So big TC owners are between truck manufacturers who recommend camper COG in front of rear axle and camper manufacturers who build big campers with COG behind rear axle.
I am pretty observant with loading and even with all heavy tools, water and other heavy stuff in truck cabin, having only light cloths in camper rear cabinets, my COG still comes behind rear axle.
With empty holding tanks in the rear and full water tank of front the camper takes 200-300 lb from front axle.
That doesn't seem to create immediate problem with my dually, who seem to handle perfectly without modification, but leaves me no margin for carrying waste water as single try proved significant difference in handling.
I understand that we are small group in whole industry but is there anything we can do, like sending group email to truck manufacturers?
I think Ford's "camper package" for dually actually lowers the safety of using the combo and I simply take it that Ford engineers have never seen heavy camper on their design?
We do have good number of educated people on the forum, who COULD make a change.
So shall we?
So big TC owners are between truck manufacturers who recommend camper COG in front of rear axle and camper manufacturers who build big campers with COG behind rear axle.
I am pretty observant with loading and even with all heavy tools, water and other heavy stuff in truck cabin, having only light cloths in camper rear cabinets, my COG still comes behind rear axle.
With empty holding tanks in the rear and full water tank of front the camper takes 200-300 lb from front axle.
That doesn't seem to create immediate problem with my dually, who seem to handle perfectly without modification, but leaves me no margin for carrying waste water as single try proved significant difference in handling.
I understand that we are small group in whole industry but is there anything we can do, like sending group email to truck manufacturers?
I think Ford's "camper package" for dually actually lowers the safety of using the combo and I simply take it that Ford engineers have never seen heavy camper on their design?
We do have good number of educated people on the forum, who COULD make a change.
So shall we?
jim taking weight off front wheels always make a difference.
Would you take present F350 with light engine, put long camper, stinger and heavier trailer and without WD bars you might be pretty close to have front wheels in the air. Got it?
Would you take present F350 with light engine, put long camper, stinger and heavier trailer and without WD bars you might be pretty close to have front wheels in the air. Got it?
jaycocreek wrote:
I think the point of this thread was why Ford or any of the others do not build something similar to the old super camper special for those monster TC's with a farther back COG/axle.
That too, but too often we have new members coming with question if having 7000 lb payload on dually they can load 7000 lb camper on it.
With the axle in front of COG it ain't so.
Most of the time 6000lb long camper will overload rear axle if you don't observe loading distribution.
jaycocreek wrote:
So a person has to dish out 50K for a pickup then start putting aftermarket mods on to haul a modest TC.
Last time I check - loades Superduty retails above $120k :e
Yeah, 8 pages and how big role COG plays in rear axle correlation is still hard to understand :e
Would Ford, or any other manufacturer build camper special dually, I think those members who had to go to 550/5500 series with their sets could think "lighter"
Shortening the distance from rear axle to trailer hitch would make for much more comfortable pulling as well.
Would Ford, or any other manufacturer build camper special dually, I think those members who had to go to 550/5500 series with their sets could think "lighter"
Shortening the distance from rear axle to trailer hitch would make for much more comfortable pulling as well.
