Common issues with Dodge 6.7L or Ford 6.7

[kincade]

Hoping to solicit some of the collective advice from the gurus on the forum about a new truck purchase. I've been lucky to own a few great trucks: 2001 7.3 powerstroke, a 2007 LBZ duramax, and just sold a 2003 cummins 5.9. All were great vehicles and I've been looking for similar replacements with lower miles. However, the only similar model trucks in my area with low miles are priced the same as the new vehicles and come without many of the amenities. Supply and demand I suppose.

In any case, I figure for similar pricing I should look at the Dodge 6.7 and Ford 6.7. I'm wondering if either have an achilles heel that should be watched for or checked out prior to purchase?

Thanks for any guidance you can give.

I'd appreciate everyone keeping this civil. This ISN'T a what truck is best kind of post. I'd simply like to know about the common issues to each model and what to watch for.

[PhoneDude_8289]

2014 Ram 2500 6.7 cummins, trouble free so far. Brother in law has 2016 F250 6.7 powerstroke with more milage, also trouble free.

[SoCalDesertRid1]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

SoCalDesertRider wrote:
If a diesel with no emissions is desired, buy a 7.3, early Duramax or 12v/24v 5.9 truck...the 24 valve was anything built before 01/01/2005. After that date they started getting emission equipment.

I wanted no emissions, and more power, so I bought an '01 International with non-emission DT466E. The motor has 800+ lb-ft at 1400 rpm and the motor is bone stock. The truck has plenty of gearing and can move more weight than any new diesel pickup can hope to. And it didn't cost $50K-60K+ 🙂

Thanks, Don

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

SoCalDesertRider wrote:
If a diesel with no emissions is desired, buy a 7.3, early Duramax or 12v/24v 5.9 truck...the 24 valve was anything built before 01/01/2005. After that date they started getting emission equipment.

I wanted no emissions, and more power, so I bought an '01 International with non-emission DT466E. The motor has 800+ lb-ft at 1400 rpm and the motor is bone stock. The truck has plenty of gearing and can move more weight than any new diesel pickup can hope to. And it didn't cost $50K-60K+ 🙂

[Mickey_D]

I have a 2014 Cummins Ram and other than the third brake light leaking during a 15 inch rain, the truck has been flawless. There were a couple of recalls taken care of when I had it in for the first couple of free oil changes, but nothing too bad. I have a bunch of buddies with diesel trucks and the general consensus is that Cummins makes the best engine, Ford the best transmission, and GM the best riding truck. Nobody has had any real problems with any of the brands other than routine wear items like batteries, brake pads, and tires.

[SoCalDesertRid1]

If a diesel with no emissions is desired, buy a 7.3, early Duramax or 12v/24v 5.9 truck...

I wanted no emissions, and more power, so I bought an '01 International with non-emission DT466E. The motor has 800+ lb-ft at 1400 rpm and the motor is bone stock. The truck has plenty of gearing and can move more weight than any new diesel pickup can hope to. And it didn't cost $50K-60K+ 🙂

[1jeep]

I see the same on the ford sites "Help I deleted and now it wont start" lol...common sense would be put it back the way it was. My last 6.7 had over 110k miles zero issues or even a reason to make me think about deleting, you cant even tell when it does a regen.

[gsbrockman]

1jeep wrote:
theres the key leave it stock!
Most of the ford complaints have been from people that tune/delete! Im not saying there aren't some that have failed for whatever reason there were stock, but ive never had issues with my stock ford 6.7s

It's pure wholesome entertainment to be on another site and watch a failed 6.7L CTD delete / tuning go WRONG at 7:00 pm on a Friday night....over the July 4th lonnnnngggg weekend.....with no tech support until July 5th. :B

Luckily.....my ol' I-6 6.7L CTD hasn't fell out of the frame rails due to my OCI's OR not being deleted. :@ Coincidence.....or NOT???

[1jeep]

theres the key leave it stock!
Most of the ford complaints have been from people that tune/delete! Im not saying there aren't some that have failed for whatever reason there were stock, but ive never had issues with my stock ford 6.7s

[gsbrockman]

jus2shy wrote:
No, but gsbrockman or ltngdriver on cumminsforum are slapping miles on their rigs pretty darn fast with full emissions. Don't know if they peruse these boards, but they both hot-shot trailers. Neither are reporting any issues with the emissions on the trucks. One has the Aisin dually setup, while the other has the 68RFE 2500 setup. Both are well north of 100k miles, I think one of them may be past 200k or close to it by now.

Thanks, jus2shy.
My signature truck has been the best rig I've owned to date. I'm now at 153,994 miles. My average MPH is 53.3 MPH, I have a lifetime average MPG of 13.6 MPG per fuelly

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ram/3500/2014/gsbrockman/298756

I've had one L/R door lock actuator replaced under warranty, a water pump reimbursement under warranty, and a noisey carrier bearing replaced under warranty. Through 149,804 miles, I've been through 228.501 gallons of DEF for a total cost of $685.69

Since I have a lowly Tradesman trim truck, I can rotate my tires easily due to the steel wheels & simulators. I received 79k miles out of my OEM LT235/80R17 General Ameri*Trac TR's, around 62k miles out of some General Grabber HTS's, and I'm currently about 12k miles into a set of LT245/75R17 Firestone Transforce H/T's. I do all of my own rotations and service work. Not sure if my rig is an exception, but ALL of my front end parts were still nice & tight through my last rotation at 151k miles. :B

There is one guy (driver612) that is over 200k miles and still bone stock.

EGR, DPF, SCR, and DEF acronyms don't scare me......unlike others on various forums that think

if you don't delete.... :B

Forgot to mention....my lifetime OCI's average out to 13,573 miles and 254 hours.

[Me_Again]

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Personally I went with Ram because of the Cummins...basic design been around for a lot of years! "

Same here with my 98 12V I bought from a friend with 50K and the truck was rock solid! Still is at 400K.

How many parts are shared between the '98 12V and the current 6.7 cummins... That would be zero. :W

It would be nice to see someone here at RV.net who can share there personal 6.7 cummins experience with the DPF and all the factory emissions equipment still functioning post these kind of high miles, but I know there isn't. :W

Here you go, you can play with the year filter.

http://www.cumminshighmileageclub.com/truck/search

How do you know there aren't some of these with all emissions stuff in tact. Your hair dresser tell you?

[jus2shy]

No, but gsbrockman or ltngdriver on cumminsforum are slapping miles on their rigs pretty darn fast with full emissions. Don't know if they peruse these boards, but they both hot-shot trailers. Neither are reporting any issues with the emissions on the trucks. One has the Aisin dually setup, while the other has the 68RFE 2500 setup. Both are well north of 100k miles, I think one of them may be past 200k or close to it by now.

[FishOnOne]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Personally I went with Ram because of the Cummins...basic design been around for a lot of years! "

Same here with my 98 12V I bought from a friend with 50K and the truck was rock solid! Still is at 400K.

How many parts are shared between the '98 12V and the current 6.7 cummins... That would be zero. :W

It would be nice to see someone here at RV.net who can share there personal 6.7 cummins experience with the DPF and all the factory emissions equipment still functioning post these kind of high miles, but I know there isn't. :W

[Cummins12V98]

"Personally I went with Ram because of the Cummins...basic design been around for a lot of years! "

Same here with my 98 12V I bought from a friend with 50K and the truck was rock solid! Still is at 400K.

[tinner12002]

spoon059 wrote:

SoCalDesertRider wrote:

patriotgrunt wrote:
Ford makes such junk! I can't understand why there are so many on the road doing work and countless customers buying them over and over as a badge of honor. Or is it possible they make pretty good trucks?

I'm a Ford guy, I've owned several, and still own a few. My family has owned several too.

That said, I also recognize that Ford is terrible about remedying known problems with their designs in a timely manner. They'd rather keep making the same problems for years and wait until the next complete re-design of the vehicle, than change problem designs as the problems become known.

I think that about sums it up right there... You have people that are so brand loyal... be it Ford, GM or Ram... that they will buy whatever that company offers, even if they KNOW that the product isn't up to task.

Well, I'm a Ford guy so I'll buy whatever piece of cr@p they produce this year. Well, my dad bought GM so I'll buy this heap of garbage they roll off the line this year. I've always been a Dodge guy so I'll gladly overpay for this rust bucket on the dealers lot.

Blind brand loyalty is what allows companies to keep pushing out inferior products and selling them. I would argue that Ford has found a particularly stubborn niche of people who will buy whatever they offer, no matter how bad.

Personally I research any truck that meets my needs when its time for a new one. I've had a Ford, a Toyota and now a Ram. I researched each of them and bought what I felt met my needs and I have never once been disappointed. But I REFUSE to be so blind that I would continue to support a company that screwed me on my last truck.

Personally I went with Ram because of the Cummins...basic design been around for a lot of years!

[tinner12002]

Bird Freak wrote:
I know of no real problems with either. What's a Dodge?

That's what you do when someone throws a ball at you!