Diesel vs gas......................

[blt2ski]

OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diesel, pro and con, I will either leave your thread, or copy and paste pertinant info to the 4 posts of pro and con of diesel or gas. This can include the GM 8.1 vs Dmax or Ford V-8/10 vs PSD etc too.

Be real and honest in you answers, not hear say, flaming etc PLEASE!

If posts are good ones, I will leave, if inflamatory or trolling in nature, they will be deleted! I will get this stick'd to the top for future parusing for those that need this type of info.

Added 6-23-04

We are getting closer to answers I am looking for etc.

Stuff like Ken's - T-Bone posts are good. There are a few others of you that have not posted, some with a 9 point question and answer type to figure out how you went with one or the other. If you are one of those, PLEASE repost in this thread. I may have to look up whom has done this and PM you, but if you think this is you, you now know what to do.

Also, for those of you with $ per gallon for either fuel right now, I would prefer to see a post with ...."in my area, diesel is typically .10 less than unleaded" then explain your numbers. As currently in the Seattle area, diesel and unleaded are any where from 2.05 -2.30 per gallon, with mid test .10 more and premium about .20 more, with equal high low splits. Two weeks ago those prices were upwards of .30 -.40 per gallon more. people were posting $ per gallon that were for me. "I wish" If someone is reading your post a year from now, they may want to know where your paying 1.65, when the price of fuel is over $3 per gallon. Let's keep prices out of it if possible.

Bert and tin tipi, got into a good discusion on the pros and cons of RPM's, drive train etc. I would prefer to NOT see the quote of the other in responding threads, maybe just write a quick wording of re tranny gearing, instead of the whole 40 words or so in that paragragh, so the repsonse is shorter if possible quicker and easier to read etc.

I have deleted some 15+/- posts, that were off topic etc. Please note, I am trying to keep this at the top, as the ONLY gas/diesel thread in this area. So if one is trying to decide, we do not have to go thru this BS any more. As such, I will be deleting ANY future posts close to resembling this type of topic. I may have to change "this" title to a better one, if one has a better sounding title, to be more positive, better claification, let me know here, or in a PM/e-mail, what ever you feel most comfortible with.

Again thank you for all of you that are keeping responses positive, etc.

Also we could use a few more positive reasons to go gas, as many can see I have both gas and diesel, both have a place! Both have positive reasons to buy that fuel, lets keep the threads etc to that purpose only!

Marty

[rvert10]

I though I knew why but, I don't. Can someone refresh my memory as to why there is winter and summer blends. Why is this important.

Thank you

[Crazyfoe]

Gas and diesel suck! Electric is where it's at now....Go Green or stay home....

[bkirkpatrick]

gsxr1300 wrote:
I probably didnt need a diesel but when i tow im always glad i have it

It's like four wheel drive; just nice to have.

[gsxr1300]

I probably didnt need a diesel but when i tow im always glad i have it

[Biggziff]

Megawatt wrote:

BlackSilver wrote:
This thread has only 327 pages, so I'll just chime in.

Diesel rules.

Gas sucks.

Your Wrong!!

you're :R

[RVbikers]

327 pages, and the last two posts sum up the whole thread..hahaha:B

[Megawatt]

BlackSilver wrote:
This thread has only 327 pages, so I'll just chime in.

Diesel rules.

Gas sucks.

Your Wrong!!

[BlackSilver]

This thread has only 327 pages, so I'll just chime in.

Diesel rules.

Gas sucks.

[neil_hank202]

Everybody’s situation is different but this information is helpful.

[RFOneWatt]

Hannibal wrote:
Thanks for the link. I downloaded the brochure and down at the bottom is the list of owner maintenance requirements. Beware this loophole that if a belt or hose fails and destroys a trans or engine, it will be called lack of maintenance or caused by a non covered part. Not trying to discourage you. Just want to pass along what I've learned from someone else who found out the hard way. To me, a maintenance contract should include scheduled maintenance and they should be responsible for any lack of maintenance as long as you brought the truck to them on schedule for that maintenance.

Thanks A LOT! That's one thing I have going for me - I am meticulous about maintenance on all of my vehicles and with that little tidbit of information you just pointed out I'll be sure to have all "major" regular maintenance done at the dealer and be sure anything I do is well documented.

I totally agree with you about regular maintenance being covered in the service contract. I would gladly pay a bit more for that peace of mind. Oh well, nothing a little bit of attention can't address.

Doesn't Hyundai and BMW include all scheduled maintenance? Just makes sense to me. I also think it should be included in all leases. I know I sure wouldn't have wanted to be the second owner of any of my lease returns.

I had a 1994 Explorer that I never changed the oil on once. Just kept adding oil when the oil light went on. (I know, kind of rude but I was young and figured why waste my money on something that wasn't mine?)

[Hannibal]

Thanks for the link. I downloaded the brochure and down at the bottom is the list of owner maintenance requirements. Beware this loophole that if a belt or hose fails and destroys a trans or engine, it will be called lack of maintenance or caused by a non covered part. Not trying to discourage you. Just want to pass along what I've learned from someone else who found out the hard way. To me, a maintenance contract should include scheduled maintenance and they should be responsible for any lack of maintenance as long as you brought the truck to them on schedule for that maintenance.

[RFOneWatt]

Hannibal wrote:
Find out who it's with and go over the details carefully. I'm sure it's not the dealership's extended warranty.

Yep, it's the Ford ESP! I was told when I bought the truck that I could buy the ESP at any time.

Ford Extended Service Plan

[Hannibal]

Find out who it's with and go over the details carefully. I'm sure it's not the dealership's extended warranty.

[RUFFSTUFF]

How much money would it cost to get a 5.4L to 580hp/1150tq reliably?

[RFOneWatt]

Thanks. I plan to do my research. Was just going to get it from the dealership I've been using for years. Bad idea?

Hannibal wrote:
Be careful in choosing an extended warranty. Most are carefully worded as to what is covered and what is not. The catch is, if a non covered item such as "belts and hoses" causes a covered item to fail, then the covered item is also not covered. This leaves a huge loophole for them to wiggle out of. It's usually a non covered item that causes the failure of a covered item.