Diesel vs gas......................

[blt2ski]

OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diesel, pro and con, I will either leave your thread, or copy and paste pertinant info to the 4 posts of pro and con of diesel or gas. This can include the GM 8.1 vs Dmax or Ford V-8/10 vs PSD etc too.

Be real and honest in you answers, not hear say, flaming etc PLEASE!

If posts are good ones, I will leave, if inflamatory or trolling in nature, they will be deleted! I will get this stick'd to the top for future parusing for those that need this type of info.

Added 6-23-04

We are getting closer to answers I am looking for etc.

Stuff like Ken's - T-Bone posts are good. There are a few others of you that have not posted, some with a 9 point question and answer type to figure out how you went with one or the other. If you are one of those, PLEASE repost in this thread. I may have to look up whom has done this and PM you, but if you think this is you, you now know what to do.

Also, for those of you with $ per gallon for either fuel right now, I would prefer to see a post with ...."in my area, diesel is typically .10 less than unleaded" then explain your numbers. As currently in the Seattle area, diesel and unleaded are any where from 2.05 -2.30 per gallon, with mid test .10 more and premium about .20 more, with equal high low splits. Two weeks ago those prices were upwards of .30 -.40 per gallon more. people were posting $ per gallon that were for me. "I wish" If someone is reading your post a year from now, they may want to know where your paying 1.65, when the price of fuel is over $3 per gallon. Let's keep prices out of it if possible.

Bert and tin tipi, got into a good discusion on the pros and cons of RPM's, drive train etc. I would prefer to NOT see the quote of the other in responding threads, maybe just write a quick wording of re tranny gearing, instead of the whole 40 words or so in that paragragh, so the repsonse is shorter if possible quicker and easier to read etc.

I have deleted some 15+/- posts, that were off topic etc. Please note, I am trying to keep this at the top, as the ONLY gas/diesel thread in this area. So if one is trying to decide, we do not have to go thru this BS any more. As such, I will be deleting ANY future posts close to resembling this type of topic. I may have to change "this" title to a better one, if one has a better sounding title, to be more positive, better claification, let me know here, or in a PM/e-mail, what ever you feel most comfortible with.

Again thank you for all of you that are keeping responses positive, etc.

Also we could use a few more positive reasons to go gas, as many can see I have both gas and diesel, both have a place! Both have positive reasons to buy that fuel, lets keep the threads etc to that purpose only!

Marty

[smcrea]

64thunderbolt wrote:
vote for Obama, he'll fix all that, LOL. The fuel prices are a joke. The traders do what they want and are not responsible to anyone. If the wind blows the wrong way it goes up immediately. Then it takes months to come back down.

Here in Az the Phx area gets most of the fuel from Ca. How can it be piped all the way here and sold for $1.00 less than in Ca?? It's not difficult to see who is screwing the public over there.

PLEASE PLEASE Don't get me going on politics! LOL!! :B

Yep, I live in CA. The State is totally broke thanks to Liberal Fiscal irresponsibility. You want to try rolling a red light turn these days!... Phewwww you'd better get another mortgage on the house (Oh sorry I forgot, you can't get a mortgage these days!)

PLEASE Arizona.. will you PLEASE PLEASE let me Immigrate to your great State?

There we go.. it's off my chest.. now.... Back to Trucks! 🙂

Signed,

A LEGAL Immigrant to The Great United States.

[bkirkpatrick]

Hannibal wrote:
But they aren't paving or maintaining our roads. The big bad government is paying for the roads we use with fuel taxes we pay. Lots of work and a heck of a lot of risk working on public highways. I'm just glad we're not paying California prices for gas or diesel.

Then in CA, the roads must be paved with gold.

[64thunderbolt]

Hannibal wrote:

64thunderbolt wrote:
Are the modern pickups better than the team of mules you started with??

Just barely. :B

That's funny, couldn't help myself Hannibal.

[64thunderbolt]

I have a friend that hauls fuel and it's the retailers mostly. He has the invoices with him to be signed and sees the price at the pump as well as the cost.

[Hannibal]

64thunderbolt wrote:
vote for Obama, he'll fix all that, LOL. The fuel prices are a joke. The traders do what they want and are not responsible to anyone. If the wind blows the wrong way it goes up immediatly. Then it takes months to come back down.

Here in Az the Phx area gets most of the fuel from Ca. How can it be piped all the way here and sold for $1.00 less than in Ca?? It's not difficult to see who is screwing the public over there.

Buy a few shares and you'll be wishing for blowing winds.:B

[Hannibal]

Madhatter1 wrote:

That's crazy. Why does CA pay a full $1 more per gallon than FL. The Prez makes oil companies out to be a bad guy for making 20 cents per gallon wile the government makes $1 to $1.50 without any work or risk????????????????????

No one is denying share holders their profits. But they aren't paving or maintaining our roads. The big bad government is paying for the roads we use with fuel taxes we pay. Lots of work and a heck of a lot of risk working on public highways. I'm just glad we're not paying California prices for gas or diesel.

[Hannibal]

64thunderbolt wrote:
Are the modern pickups better than the team of mules you started with??

Just barely. :B

[rhagfo]

Not government they had a major refinery fire in Bay area! Wash and Ore had the same thing in the spring. Gas was about 20 to 30 more than diesel for about a month or two.

[64thunderbolt]

Hannibal wrote:

64thunderbolt wrote:
I have to believe the aux batt option is for a gasser. Never have I seen a diesel of any brand with one batt.

Been towing a 5er for 15 yrs and one alt has been enough. Option may be cheap till you have to replace one on your dime. The only reason I can see is like was said before, running a big inverter for a welder etc.

Youngsters... The first vintage diesel pickups had one battery. Cold weather starting with glow plugs and heater grids is why they went to two batteries.

Thanks for the "Youngsters" comment. I'm 62 so you must be very old. Are the modern pickups better than the team of mules you started with??

[64thunderbolt]

vote for Obama, he'll fix all that, LOL. The fuel prices are a joke. The traders do what they want and are not responsible to anyone. If the wind blows the wrong way it goes up immediatly. Then it takes months to come back down.

Here in Az the Phx area gets most of the fuel from Ca. How can it be piped all the way here and sold for $1.00 less than in Ca?? It's not difficult to see who is screwing the public over there.

[bkirkpatrick]

That is exactly what is wrong with California. They have a spending problem in Sacramento, not an income problem. The balance is a state tax. Now, they have proposition 30 which is asking for more money for schools. WTF! The lottery was supposed to pay for that and it does!!! Sacramento is just dipping into all of its funds and now they are out of money. This state is beyond repair. 15 billion in illegal alien subsidies and that is only counting a part of the freebies. What a joke.

[Madhatter1]

Ram4Sam wrote:
The price of gas has gone nuts here in California. Luckily, I haven't had to buy any for my daily driver....for the last twenty years or so.....:B

Sam

That's crazy. Why does CA pay a full $1 more per gallon than FL. The Prez makes oil companies out to be a bad guy for making 20 cents per gallon wile the government makes $1 to $1.50 without any work or risk????????????????????

[Ram4Sam]

The price of gas has gone nuts here in California. Luckily, I haven't had to buy any for my daily driver....for the last twenty years or so.....:B

Sam

[Ram4Sam]

Hannibal wrote:

64thunderbolt wrote:
I have to believe the aux batt option is for a gasser. Never have I seen a diesel of any brand with one batt.

Been towing a 5er for 15 yrs and one alt has been enough. Option may be cheap till you have to replace one on your dime. The only reason I can see is like was said before, running a big inverter for a welder etc.

Youngsters... The first vintage diesel pickups had one battery. Cold weather starting with glow plugs and heater grids is why they went to two batteries.

My 91' Cummins got along just fine on one battery......

Sam

[Jarlaxle]

Even Liz's 1986 Blazer has two batteries. So does a 1986 F350. The 1989 Ram diesel had two.

Say what?