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does it hurt a f250 gas motor to bumper pull 10,000 lbs?

georgialawn88
Explorer
Explorer
I know diesel has more torque but just a simple question for my phycological purchase. does 10,000 lb towing put strain on a gas motor enough to make it hurt it?
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shepstone
Explorer
Explorer
Retired JSO wrote:
Skip the gas unless you can find a lower gear than the 3.73. My 16, 6.2 can’t maintain 65 with any headwind over 12-15 mph in 5th towing my 25’ W&P at 9,200 lbs. iI drive in 5th most times towing but a headwind is like putting on the brakes.

This is so true, the 4:30 gearset would be a good choice, headwinds blowing against a large frontal area make a huge difference.
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burningman
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He forgot to carry groceries home every other week in it.
My ‘55 Chevy sits in pieces in the garage for years at a time. It looks as good as it did 30 years ago, but it’s always kept warm and dry. I sure wish I had room to keep my camper in there too! Given the choice, the camper loses...
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Grit_dog
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^ Only if it has 3.31 gears.....they tow better!
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blt2ski
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4x4ord wrote:
An f150 is quite likely a good choice for someone wanting to tow a 10000 lb trailer with a gas engine. If I wanted more truck than a f150 I would buy a f350 diesel. If the diesel was out of my budget I would buy a slightly used 2017 f350 srw diesel.


Being as I have been looking at a new to me truck. A slightly used rig is costing as much or more than some new rigs right now. Granted I am looking at GM 1500's, but from skimming the 25/35 series setups, I see the same issue in higher gvwr rigs.

Usually, if one does not have the funds for a new rig, a one year old rig is usually out of the question. Need to go 5 yrs or older to start getting a significant difference between new and used.

Marty
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blt2ski
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burningman wrote:
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Like was mentioned, it’s a tool you buy to get a job done. It might last longer if it sits in a garage and only carries groceries home every other week, but it’s made for working and it can do it.


Not so sure sitting in a garage is good for too many vehicles, if they sit too long.......My dads 72 Cougar XR7 convertable sat in a garage for so long, it does not run. Rubber, gaskets etc are so shot, it needs a new motor, trans, axels gone thru. Had a cover over it, water got beneath, some things are rusted......has all of 40K miles on it. It would probably be in better shape if it had been driven more than it has been! Worth more too! Overall, it is still clean. still a lot of work to get it ready to drive and enjoy it!

Marty
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burningman
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Whatever you do, don’t buy any truck yet!!!
You’re about to spend a whole lot of money on something you say you’re completely unfamiliar with (trucks). F250s are not all alike, they can be configured differently.

Spend a bunch of time reading and asking questions here AND on Ford truck forums.

Any new 3/4 ton American truck will pull that trailer, but they can be set up better for hauling heavy depending on options.

Technically, driving the truck at all “hurts” it, like mowing the lawn hurts your mower blade.
Like was mentioned, it’s a tool you buy to get a job done. It might last longer if it sits in a garage and only carries groceries home every other week, but it’s made for working and it can do it.
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99 Ram 4x4 Dually Cummins
A whole lot more fuel, a whole lot more boost.
4.10 gears, Gear Vendors overdrive, exhaust brake
Built auto, triple disc, billet shafts.
Kelderman Air Ride, Helwig sway bar.

RCMAN46
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Retired JSO wrote:
Skip the gas unless you can find a lower gear than the 3.73. My 16, 6.2 can’t maintain 65 with any headwind over 12-15 mph in 5th towing my 25’ W&P at 9,200 lbs. iI drive in 5th most times towing but a headwind is like putting on the brakes.


What is wrong with going to 4th gear. It is the same as with going with a 4.30 rear axle in 5th gear.

Rear end gears will not give you more horsepower.

deltabravo
Nomad
Nomad
time2roll wrote:
No strain. It is just a machine and does not get tired.


Ditto.

It's won't "hurt" either since it has no feelings.
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4x4ord
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An f150 is quite likely a good choice for someone wanting to tow a 10000 lb trailer with a gas engine. If I wanted more truck than a f150 I would buy a f350 diesel. If the diesel was out of my budget I would buy a slightly used 2017 f350 srw diesel.
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Retired_JSO
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Skip the gas unless you can find a lower gear than the 3.73. My 16, 6.2 can’t maintain 65 with any headwind over 12-15 mph in 5th towing my 25’ W&P at 9,200 lbs. iI drive in 5th most times towing but a headwind is like putting on the brakes.

dodge_guy
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A lot of people don’t realize that a diesel pulling along at 2800rpm is screaming!
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nickthehunter
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We get it ppine, you think a diesel is the only thing that can tow a trailer. Manufacturers give vehicles tow ratings based upon the vehicles design. Any vehicle (gas, diesel, propane, electric, whatever) is fully capable of towing/hauling right up to 100% of their rating. Don't exceed any rating you're good to go.

ppine
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Grit dog wrote:
ppine wrote:
A lot of the strain is expressed as heat. Transmission fail and engines blow up because of heat a lot of the time. Even with a large cooling system and a trans cooler it is possible to overheat the drive train shortening its life. This is especially true on mountain roads and small secondary roads with much steeper grades than interstates and state highways.


Correct, but reel yourself in from left field now. Let's stay on topic class! Lol


This is the heart of the topic.

Fordlover
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georgialawn88 wrote:
I just meant extra strain. Like I'm not gonna blow up the motor pulling that. This will be a new 2018 f250 when purchased


That's what I have on order currently. I suggest opting for the 4.30 gearing, this required us to special order ours. I believe it bumped tow rating from 12,000 to 15,000 lbs.
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