Nov-21-2014 06:17 PM
Dec-01-2014 08:23 AM
Dec-01-2014 08:03 AM
goducks10 wrote:
I've not looked into it but common sense tells me that those high mpg ratings are not the same when getting the gearing needed for the highest tow ratings. Usually with the high mpg ratings they stick the lowest (numerical) gears in the rear and vice versa for towing. Can't have both at the same time.
Dec-01-2014 08:02 AM
boocoodinkydow wrote:
It's a shame these threads turn into a push & shove match between the ford & chrysler camps but unfortunately there are some that relish stirring the pot. We're fortunate to have a choice of well engineered fuel mizer trucks. There's no denying that diesel is at an historic premium to gas. While I've seen some spotty $1 differences, I've had no problem finding diesel at $.60 higher, still almost 25% over gas. Historically, diesel equipped vehicles demand a far greater resale value over comparable gas powered units & often recoup much of the initial premium, but I understand how many don't feel they can justify the high option cost of the ecodiesel. In spite of these facts, however, the ram Ed is an obvious home run; chrysler has been unable to come close to keeping up with demand. You'll be hard pressed to find one on a dealers lot. There have been other threads similar to this using a lot of speculation some slanted spin to compare the 2 trucks. I now have in excess of 11,000 miles on my Ed & can share some real world experience. My best mpg was 31.1 & worst was a little over 24. Both were hand calculated on a full tank quantity. I've made numerous trips from south al to east tenn at speeds of 70-75 and consistently get over 26 mpg. On a 1500 diesel forum there is a thread entitled "30 mpg club" with numerous accounts of 30+mpg. Another forum has a thread following a family of 4 towing an almost 6000# tt with gear on a trip from n.c. To Cali. Daily mpg reports range from 14-16. Much attention has been called to the Rams anemic tow/haul ratings. I've had over 2300# in the bed on 2 occassions. Both were short trips of less than 40 miles but were on some pretty gnarly east tenn mountain roads. I hauled 1850# on a 450 mile trip. The air suspension leveled the load on all occassions perfectly. I did a before & after load measurement once & registered a deflection of only 1 3/8" with the 2300# load. While its definitely not a hotrod, I've never found myself longing for additional power. Never felt uncomfortable entering traffic flow nor in a passing situation. I've seen objections over the added cost of def. I've filled once & the cost came to less than one quarter of one cent per mile. Oil changes are expensive. Purchased in the southeast region I got the added Benny of 4 freebies but at my local dealership it would have otherwise cost $161 (yes, ouch). For the diy'ers, look for about half that amount. I'm not so much touting the accolades of the Ed but rather simply sharing some real world accounts. With the premium cost of diesel and the added option cost of the Ed it's surely not an easy financial justification in all instances. As compared to what was available just a short ten years ago, I think both trucks are great examples of modern engineering and I'm anxious to see what else the future holds for us truck enthusiasts, irrelevant of what it's branded!!
Dec-01-2014 07:53 AM
06Fargo wrote:
Torque has nothing to do with it. It's all about the horsepower. Those 40 ton 18 wheelers cruising at 65 in a side wind are a mirage...they only have 450 or 500 hp.
2 x 2.7l F150 engines hooked together = 640hp would handle 40 tons hands down... and leave a 450hp ISX diesel for dead, I'm sure...
Diesel is yesteryear's technology ...
Nov-29-2014 02:44 PM
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Nov-26-2014 02:23 PM
Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Hay Hybirdhunter here are some real numbers for you.
The EPA rates the four-wheel-drive 2015 F-150 with the 2.7-liter EcoBoost V-6 at 18/23 mpg, and when we put it through our Real MPG testing, we saw 17 mpg city, 22 mpg highway, and 19 mpg combined
The Ram EcoDiesel is EPA-rated at 19 mpg city, 27 mpg highway, and 22 mpg combined. In our Real MPG testing, it performed better than advertised, returning 20 mpg city, 28 mpg highway, and 23 mpg combined. Moreover, in our payload fuel economy test, it returned an observed 23 mpg.
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Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/1501_comparison_2015_ford_f_150_vs_ram_1500_chevrolet_silverado/#ixzz3KA0nfY4v
Nov-26-2014 02:20 PM
Nov-26-2014 07:01 AM
Hybridhunter wrote:I guess you don't have school buses up in Manitoba as they take over a 1/4 mile just to get to 55mph or your buses have one whale of a lot bigger motor than we have down here.
Slowest by a wide margin, most expensive, heaviest, lowest payload, broke down and died..... Which t...
It did however at least cover the 20% diesel cost premium, by you guessed it, 20% better as tested mileage. Not sure I want a truck that does 0-60 in 24 SECONDS with a 7000# trailer. That's pretty 80's man. (said with a 1980's cali accent).
Ford did 0-60 in 16. not sure if the ram could do 70, they didn't test it lol. The ram took over a 1/4 mile to get to that speed as well. We have only 2 merge lanes a 1/4 mile long in all of Manitoba., and traffic goes 70, do the math.
Terrible.
Nov-26-2014 05:22 AM
Hybridhunter wrote:
The ram took over a 1/4 mile to get to that speed as well. We have only 2 merge lanes a 1/4 mile long in all of Manitoba., and traffic goes 70, do the math.
Terrible.
Nov-25-2014 11:18 PM
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Nov-25-2014 06:44 PM
FishOnOne wrote:
I understand... but the intent of the video was to point out the separator unit. Having said that I'm sure it's not 100% effective, but something is better than nothing. I also agree the filter on top of the valve cover on the Cummins is a piece of cake to replace and again is better than nothing.