โJul-03-2017 07:50 AM
โJul-18-2017 10:16 AM
CavemanCharlie wrote:
Soooo, you are taking out a long term loan, with a lower interest rate, then you are paying off (whatever) sooner without paying a penalty or without paying the whole rate of interest ?
Humm, I will have to give this some thought but, it sounds like we are setting ourselves up for another economic collapse.
The banks ; on there books ; think that they will have X number of dollars coming in over X number of years. If they don't get it because everyone pays off their loan early then that will be a problem.
But, I am not a economist. I am just thinking out loud.
โJul-17-2017 08:10 PM
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โJul-07-2017 10:12 AM
CavemanCharlie wrote:
Good post. But,,, I have a question. If you take out a long term loan and then pay it off early don't you still have to pay the full interest that would be on the loan???
โJul-07-2017 07:30 AM
โJul-06-2017 05:47 PM
jus2shy wrote:
Another note is that some people purposefully take the longer term finance, with the full intent of paying off early. I personally do this (done it for many things, including my student loan), just in case events in life come up and I need to cut back on paying bills, I have that flexibility. Currently planning on a spring purchase for a trailer myself and plan on taking the long term, just so I can remain flexible. Truck is almost paid off and I figure that I'm paying an "Opportunity" cost to get a trailer sooner rather than later, as kids don't remain toddlers forever and I'm personally tired of the tent camping lifestyle. Once truck is paid off, trailer becomes the "Vehicle" monthly bill.
What I'm certainly sure most people can agree to on this board is that many people out there are financially illiterate. They don't understand the concept of an opportunity cost (interest on most debts), and what you're supposed to do when you take out that loan (invest said cash so it can make money, using your dollars to work for you). A lot of people do tend to stretch themselves living paycheck to paycheck. Some in my family included (no matter what I advise). I remember reading a few articles where only 25% of Americans can come up with $1k or $2k within a couple weeks to pay for an unexpected event. That's just appalling. I think more "Finance" classes should be offered in our school curricula so that people don't get swindled at car dealerships, home purchases, or even RV purchases. So that people can understand what it truly means to "Afford" something. I could go out and buy a Porsche 911 GTS. But I know I can't afford a Porsche 911 GTS, not if I want to hit my other life goal of early retirement. Good ol' give and take :).
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โJul-05-2017 04:25 PM
GrandpaKip wrote:delwhjr wrote:spoon059 wrote:wing_zealot wrote:
Last RV I bought I financed for 12 years at 4.2%. Over the same 12 years the money that I would have used to pay cash earned just shy of 7.6%. So tell me again how "Someone, anyone financing 5.4% for 12 years is making a bad move". I suggest you might stay away from giving financial advice, your not very good at it.
Well stated and thanks for proving my point in another way.
Technically speaking, putting that much money into a depreciating asset is a bad financial move. Hopefully nobody here considers a recreational vehicle a financial investment. I spent the money on my camper knowing full well that it was a more expensive way to travel and that I would likely never recoup the money I spent. We bought our camper so that our children would have the same adventures that I was fortunate enough to have growing up.
Camping allows me to take my wife and kids and pets to Florida for 2 weeks in the winter, the beach every summer, the lake several times a year, the mountains in the fall, occasional trips to cities like St. Augustine, Charleston, Savannah, NYC, etc. These are all adventures that we wouldn't otherwise take.
The money, while it is a lot for me, is inconsequential compared to the experiences that it allows my family to enjoy. I am very fortunate that I expect to pay my camper off within 4 years. Others aren't so lucky. If I had to chose between paying a lower monthly payment over a longer period of time or foregoing these trips with my family... I would likely chose a 12 year loan too. My family is worth it to me.
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My son and his wife are doing the same. The TV is financed and so is the camper. They are teachers and take their 3 children on summer long trips, as well as shorter trips during school breaks. If they had followed some of the "advice" given here, they would not have the great experiences of traveling.
As an aside, my daughter in law is a CPA and teaches accounting and finance in college. She has real credentials.
Off the box now.
โJul-05-2017 09:31 AM