Jul-16-2020 12:09 PM
Jul-18-2020 09:45 AM
mrad wrote:5th wheels are inherently more stable towing than a TT because all the pin/tongue weight is placed directly over the rear axle. As long as you're within your truck's payload/tow capacity ratings, I believe you're going to find towing most any 5th wheel with any late model HD diesel truck is going to be a step-up in stability vs. towing the 37' bumper-pull TT with the Excursion.
What are the maxlengths you are towing?
We are making the jump from a 37' bumper to bumper TT to a 5th wheel. We towed the TT with a Ford Excursion and traveled all throughout the midwest and CO, AZ, and other western states with no problems
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thanks in advance for your replies.
Jul-18-2020 08:31 AM
Jul-18-2020 06:36 AM
Me Again wrote:
We pulled a 39'4" high profile 5th wheel with a 2015 SRW 4x4 RAM 3500 CC SB. We were 24,500 combined and trailer was pushing 15,500 to 16K. We chose a trailer with a lighter 2435 lb dry pin weight. Truck was loaded heavy, as full timed for two years, and we were near the 7K RGAWR. We made two round trips from NW Washington to Arizona and both included some high winds without issues.
Jul-17-2020 08:30 PM
Jul-17-2020 07:23 PM
mkirsch wrote:
A crew cab short box has a LONGER wheelbase than a standard cab long box.
NOBODY has a single qualm about towing ANY length trailer with a standard cab long box truck. NOBODY says a standard cab long box is "too short."
Logic dictates if the standard cab long box is adequate, a LONGER truck is no less adequate.
Jul-17-2020 12:43 PM
valhalla360 wrote:mrad wrote:
2013 duramax SRW. Payload was actually 4,200 lbs. It will be just the wife and I traveling so It's doubtful we will ever approach 600 lbs in the truck itself. The truck has a 33 gallon tank.
Dry pin weight is 2,700 and 12,000K dry trailer weight. I is a front living so I am guessing most of the contents will be stored close to axle (kitchen) or behind the axle (bedroom) so I am thinking that would take a little pin weight off when loaded. We dont dry dock so rarely if ever would we travel with water.
Thanks again for all the input.
I'm betting if you take it to the scales loaded, you will be right close to the limits.
Average American couple plus a 200lb hitch will be close to 600lb (I leave to you if you want to put her on a scale)...but that would be with nothing else in the truck or truck bed...add running boards, tool box, fire wood, etc... and you can quickly add a few hundred pounds more.
Pin weight almost always goes up as you load and you wind up in the 20-25% range, hence 3000-3500lb on a 15k GVWR rig.
Jul-17-2020 11:16 AM
mrad wrote:
2013 duramax SRW. Payload was actually 4,200 lbs. It will be just the wife and I traveling so It's doubtful we will ever approach 600 lbs in the truck itself. The truck has a 33 gallon tank.
Dry pin weight is 2,700 and 12,000K dry trailer weight. I is a front living so I am guessing most of the contents will be stored close to axle (kitchen) or behind the axle (bedroom) so I am thinking that would take a little pin weight off when loaded. We dont dry dock so rarely if ever would we travel with water.
Thanks again for all the input.
Jul-17-2020 11:15 AM
Jul-17-2020 09:49 AM
Jul-17-2020 09:44 AM
mrad wrote:
We are making the jump from a 37' bumper to bumper TT to a 5th wheel. We towed the TT with a Ford Excursion and traveled all throughout the midwest and CO, AZ, and other western states with no problems.
Would just hate to mkae the purchase and find out I am short on length.
thanks in advance for your replies.
Jul-17-2020 09:36 AM
valhalla360 wrote:
There is a legal upper length limit (varies by state) but unless you double tow, it's unlikely to be an issue as the 5th wheel sits over the truck bed as opposed to a bumper pull that sits fully behind the truck.
Can you give us more details about the truck...year, single rear wheels vs dual rear wheels. If it really has a 4,400lb payload, it should be OK for up to a 15k trailer which should have a pin weight on the order of 3000-3500lb.
Jul-17-2020 07:35 AM
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