Ford Raptor vs. Chevy Silverado

[FishOnOne]

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Very true, they are purpose built. Raptor is designed for off roading.

Just like the new dodge power wagon is. (Off road built). Even though it's 2500 series, it has a low payload rating, i think only 1600 lbs, due to the off road suspension

[bucky]

High perf trucks with high rpm torque converters don't do well towing.
The Raptor is a BA truck, not a tow beast.

[Camper_G]

They don't give any specs on the trucks. I hope they at least used a chevy with the max tow package so it had the steepest gears in it that you can get in those trucks now. I do think those guys are goobers, but that's beside the point.

The raptor is awesome, no doubt, but it's not really a fair fight. Chevy does not have a dog in this fight right now. The raptor is a purpose built performance truck. To be more fair chevy would need to release a new SS truck with a higher horsepower 6.2 and steeper gearing. I'd like to see that. Same for Ram if they had a 6.4 powered 1500 with steep gearing.

I'm still breaking in my truck so I've not gotten into the skinny pedal on my new Ram much, but i can already tell the 6.4 HEMI has a lot of juice.

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

FishOnOne wrote:

The Raptor's engine has different pistons and tuning.

OK didn't know that.

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

mich800 wrote:

What video or test are you referring to? 2017 GM against a 2016 Raptor or F150. I am curious. And on the Raptor vs base 150, very different tunes.

There is a video going around showing a 2016 f-150 6 speed running a 2017 f-150 8 speed. I thought the 2017 was a Raptor. I'll see if I can find it but it doesn't look like it was these guys.

[FishOnOne]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Groover wrote:
Since Chevy really doesn't compete with the Raptor I wish that they had used an F150 with the standard 3.5 Ecoboost. That would be a lot more relevant to me.

They ran the 2017 8 speed up against the 2016 6 speed and it got dusted. Since they are not even running an 1/8 mile the two 2017 trucks should run neck to neck if equipped with the same gears. Not a Ford guy so not sure it the Raptor has a different tune then the other f-150's

The Raptor's engine has different pistons and tuning.

[mich800]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Groover wrote:
Since Chevy really doesn't compete with the Raptor I wish that they had used an F150 with the standard 3.5 Ecoboost. That would be a lot more relevant to me.

They ran the 2017 8 speed up against the 2016 6 speed and it got dusted. Since they are not even running an 1/8 mile the two 2017 trucks should run neck to neck if equipped with the same gears. Not a Ford guy so not sure it the Raptor has a different tune then the other f-150's

What video or test are you referring to? 2017 GM against a 2016 Raptor or F150. I am curious. And on the Raptor vs base 150, very different tunes.

[rjstractor]

Groover wrote:
Since Chevy really doesn't compete with the Raptor I wish that they had used an F150 with the standard 3.5 Ecoboost. That would be a lot more relevant to me.

Agreed, but they did pit Chevy's fastest accelerating truck against Ford's. Now when Ram comes out with the Hellcat truck it would really get interesting!

[Bionic_Man]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Groover wrote:
Since Chevy really doesn't compete with the Raptor I wish that they had used an F150 with the standard 3.5 Ecoboost. That would be a lot more relevant to me.

They ran the 2017 8 speed up against the 2016 6 speed and it got dusted. Since they are not even running an 1/8 mile the two 2017 trucks should run neck to neck if equipped with the same gears. Not a Ford guy so not sure it the Raptor has a different tune then the other f-150's

The Raptor is pushing 450 HP vs the standard EB at 375.

It looked like they did the same launch in that other story - power braked the 2017 and not the 2016 (actually, I thought that one was like a 2014?). They should launch them the same way - 4x4 engaged, power brake enough so that you don't lose traction, and then let er rip! I am sure the 2017 would still win, but at least that would be closer to apples - apples.

[chiefcamper]

These turbo charged engines are very cool. Dual turbos even better......until they break. It will be interesting to see how long they last when they are under strain from towing, heat will be the enemy. Then the $$$$'s to fix? Still though, pretty impressive horsepower ratings!

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

Groover wrote:
Since Chevy really doesn't compete with the Raptor I wish that they had used an F150 with the standard 3.5 Ecoboost. That would be a lot more relevant to me.

They ran the 2017 8 speed up against the 2016 6 speed and it got dusted. Since they are not even running an 1/8 mile the two 2017 trucks should run neck to neck if equipped with the same gears. Not a Ford guy so not sure it the Raptor has a different tune then the other f-150's

[Lessmore]

Fast Mopar wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:
Why don't they spool up the Chevy like they do the Raptor? I would think that would help the launch.

Yes, but that is using too much common sense.

These guys are the new breed of journalists. My high school journalism teacher always said that a journalist is supposed to report the news, not be the news. These guys just want everyone to think they are cool.

I haven't seen the video in question so can't and won't comment on their presentation.

Your comment about your old teacher was quite right. Skilled Journalists used to present facts...and let the reader draw their own conclusions.

Nowadays many in the media (papers, radio, TV) seem to be presenting their own agenda. It really is more like propaganda. Sorting out the wheat from the chaff...gets tiresome for many readers/viewers.

[Groover]

Since Chevy really doesn't compete with the Raptor I wish that they had used an F150 with the standard 3.5 Ecoboost. That would be a lot more relevant to me.

"These guys are the new breed of journalists. My high school journalism teacher always said that a journalist is supposed to report the news, not be the news. These guys just want everyone to think they are cool. "
Maybe but I would swap jobs with them in heartbeat!

[Fast_Mopar]

Bionic Man wrote:
Why don't they spool up the Chevy like they do the Raptor? I would think that would help the launch.

Yes, but that is using too much common sense.

These guys are the new breed of journalists. My high school journalism teacher always said that a journalist is supposed to report the news, not be the news. These guys just want everyone to think they are cool.