Jun-23-2022 10:59 AM
Jun-24-2022 08:54 AM
Jun-24-2022 08:22 AM
Walaby wrote:
My first five or six trucks in my lifetime were gassers.
My last two were/are diesels.
I'll never go back, even if I quit RVing.
Mike
Jun-24-2022 06:55 AM
blt2ski wrote:agesilaus wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
What did you like towing with more??? That's your answer.
To a certain extent, but where you will be towing is the most important. Mountain travel, the you need a diesel. Flat lands east of the big muddy, you can live with a gasser.
Of course you can drag your RV up those 7 or 8% grades, but the engine will be working very hard.
7-8% grade is STEEP for an interstate, reality, federal funfed interstates are suppised to be 6% or less, with short spurts to 8. Ive personally necer found interstates geades to be an issue.
Marty
Jun-24-2022 05:40 AM
Huntindog wrote:
Not only that, but a gas truck with 150K on it is considered by most to be used up. A diesel with the same is considered broke in.
Jun-24-2022 05:33 AM
hondapro wrote:Walaby wrote:
My first five or six trucks in my lifetime were gassers.
My last two were/are diesels.
I'll never go back, even if I quit RVing.
Mike
I am the same, as long as I am dragging around a RV it will be pulled by a diesel.
I just enjoy the way a diesel pulls for me it is a more relaxing towing experience.
If I was to stop RVing I would go to a gasser most likely in a 1/2 ton.
Jun-24-2022 04:15 AM
Walaby wrote:
My first five or six trucks in my lifetime were gassers.
My last two were/are diesels.
I'll never go back, even if I quit RVing.
Mike
Jun-23-2022 07:31 PM
agesilaus wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
What did you like towing with more??? That's your answer.
To a certain extent, but where you will be towing is the most important. Mountain travel, the you need a diesel. Flat lands east of the big muddy, you can live with a gasser.
Of course you can drag your RV up those 7 or 8% grades, but the engine will be working very hard.
Jun-23-2022 04:24 PM
Jun-23-2022 03:34 PM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
What did you like towing with more??? That's your answer.
Jun-23-2022 03:29 PM
Jun-23-2022 03:06 PM
valhalla360 wrote:You don't need to pay for the diesel upcharge. That premium price for the diesel will still be there when you sell it. Not only that, but a gas truck with 150K on it is considered by most to be used up. A diesel with the same is considered broke in. IOW used diesel sell easier/faster than used gas trucks and for more money..... The gas motor fans always leave that part out.... And the fun/ Ego factor is just a bonus for driving a more capable truck.Cummins12V98 wrote:
What did you like towing with more??? That's your answer.
If you need to sooth your ego and money is a non-issue, by all means get the diesel. They are great fun.
Unless you are doing 30-40k miles per year towing, the fuel savings won't pay for the diesel up charge.
Biggest driver is what are you pulling.
- If you are pulling a 7k lb trailer, go gas.
- If you are pulling an 18k lb trailer, go diesel.
For me the break point is going to be somewhere around 12-15k lb.
- With lots of mountain driving, I would use the lower end of that range.
- With modest mountain driving, I would use the upper end of that range.
- Obviously, check the actual tow and payload ratings.
Jun-23-2022 03:05 PM
thomas201 wrote:
I got to be friends with two company fleet managers over the years. One with a fleet of hundreds of our type of trucks, the other had several thousand in the US, along with a fleet of heavy duty trucks.
Initial cost, all costs of ownership (fuel, parts, oil, antifreeze, mechanic time and so on), then your exit price when you sell the vehicle. Pass it though Discounted Cash Flow Rate of Return (Internal ROR) and/or Net Present Value, and there you have it. They bought gas unless the usage mandated diesel (heavy loads).
Now for fun, I just loved towing for 10 years with a diesel, but don't confuse that with money. Fun and money, do not normally travel together.
Jun-23-2022 02:43 PM
theoldwizard1 wrote:
IMHO, diesel does NOT make sense unless you
- Have a load that can't possibly be towed by a gasser
- Drive 50,000+ per year
Preferably, both !
Jun-23-2022 02:43 PM
Jun-23-2022 02:38 PM
wanderingaimlessly wrote:
GM's 6.6 with a 10 speed they all are more capable than the gassers of 2017.