Lance 855S on a F350 SRW?

[Slick_Rick]

Looking for somebody with this combo, I need some weight data. We're considering this TC. Our truck is a 2015 F350 PSD CCSB, 11,500 GVWR, 3400 payload, 6000 Front GAW, 7000 Rear GAW. Went to the Cat scale and we're at 3340 Drive Axle, 5040 Steer Axle. This seems a close call and some are suggesting a Sumo Spring and other mods including 19.5 wheels and tires (big $$$!). Hoping to do it with the Michelins but they're only rated for 3750 each, 7500 total.
Is anyone doing this without a dually or pricey mods? We like this unit but don't wanna be on the edge weight wise. Are there any E tires with 4000lbs or more load rating?
Thanks for your help.
Rick

[billyray50]

You will be fine with your setup. I haul this big TC with my truck set up no problem. 11,800 lbs. loaded. I added 19.5 wheels and tires for added safety. 1998 Lance 990 legend 11' 3" dry bath. dry weight 3400 lbs.

[Jfresh]

The highest rated "normal tire" is going to be 4080 lbs. Just remember depending ton your options your lance will weight in significantly more than the advertised weight.

[wintersun]

SumoSprings are only warrantied for 24 months, better to go with SuperSprings to get more support at the rear axle.

With 7500 lbs. of support at the rear tires and a truck that weighs 3340 at the rear you have a load capacity of 4160 lbs. and the Lance 855S has a dry weight of 2620 lbs. which leaves room for up to 1540 lbs. of water, food, and gear in the camper.

I don't see that you will have a problem or will need to go to 19.5 rims and tires unless you plan to tow a trailer that will have a 500 lb. tongue weight on the rear tires in addition to the camper's weight.

My Lance 845 has a dry weight that is a little over 2700 lbs. and when fully loaded for a trip the most it has weighed is 3400 lbs. and that included a half full fresh water tank.

I use a double leaf set of SuperSprings and tires rated for 3750@80 PSI and works exceptionally well.

I added a Big Wig anti-sway bar and it improved the ride when the camper is off the truck, no difference in ride or handling with the camper on the truck, though I have a GM truck which has a considerably stiffer frame than the Ford F-250/350/450 pickups.

[JumboJet]

Lance 1052: dry weight, 3,987 pounds + 45 gallons fresh, 375.3 pounds + 6 gallon full hot water heater, 50 pounds + 2x 20-pound full propane tanks, 40 pounds + 2 batteries, 130 pounds + stuff, 500 pounds = 5,082.3 pounds

[PSUJIM85]

I made this same choice last fall.

I purchased the loaded 855s total weight was 3200 pounds wet with AC and Solar panels.

The only Truck in Diesel that would carry that load within the GVWR and leave room for me and my wife with gear was a Chevy 3500 HD crew cab short bed. GVWR 11,500 pounds total payload was 4,264 pounds with a rear axel max of 7,500 pounds. It only is available with a 3.73 rear end. I put a set of Air Lift - Load Lifter 5000 ultimate's on just for stability and to control lean. I have driven in on the highway and into camp grounds and it is like driving the truck with nothing on the back. The set up is sweet and my truck is NOT OVER LOADED, like about 99% of the set ups I read on here.

PS: Tires were stock Load Range E rated to over 4,000 pounds each.

Look at the post on a 1052 on a SWD 3500. That rig weighed over 6,000 pounds wet - how can any truck haul that and be under the GVWR? It would tax a Dually. I would rather be safe then dead with a big camper.

[Roamer28]

Is fun to see all this info, I have a 2015 F250 4x2 super cab bags and upper lower Tork lift loads runs like dream 855 not so take 275 on you are in a good spot I would not worry .

[JIMNLIN]

slick wrote:
Our truck is a 2015 F350 PSD CCSB, 11,500 GVWR, 3400 payload, 6000 Front GAW, 7000 Rear GAW. Went to the Cat scale and we're at 3340 Drive Axle, 5040 Steer Axle.

Good for you.
Its nice when someone asks about weights and have their trucks front and rear axle weights. Make doin' the math simple.
As others say your truck has a 7000 RAWR and your empty rear axle weight is 3340 lbs = 3660 lb payload.
Your trucks 7000 RAWR includes rear spring pack/wheels and tires.
Ford specs says the 20" wheels have a 3590 lb rating and 20" tires at 3750 lbs.
Fords 18" tires and wheels at 3640 lbs each.
Ford rear spring pack specs shows a 7000 lb rating.

If your wanting 4000 lbs per tire the wheels and the rear spring pack will need to be equally rated also.

[Buzzcut1]

woodhog wrote:

Lots of focus on the tires but you should also check out what the rims Ford supplies are rated at. Having a tire capable of the weight will not help much if he rims can not handle it.

Shhhhhh!!! Dont mention this on here, no one talks about it about their wheel capacity, just load on the rubber and go !!

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[woodhog]

Lots of focus on the tires but you should also check out what the rims Ford supplies are rated at. Having a tire capable of the weight will not help much if he rims can not handle it.

Shhhhhh!!! Dont mention this on here, no one talks about it about their wheel capacity, just load on the rubber and go !!

[brholt]

Lots of focus on the tires but you should also check out what the rims Ford supplies are rated at. Having a tire capable of the weight will not help much if he rims can not handle it.

[Truckin10]

You might need a Dodge...Just kidding.
My Lance 855s sits on a 2010 dodge 2500, 17" rims and 305 70r 17 Nitto terra grapplers. Yes, I know it's probably not the best rim/tire combination for that heavy of a camper, but it works for me...at least so far. I have a lot of sidewall flex which is also not ideal. I have driven from Seattle to Alaska with this set up and had no issues. I also have, PacBrake bags, Helwig sway bar, and Rancho 5000's. I owned a 2011 f-350 SRW that would have probably handled the camper better, but I like my Dodge better for towing.
Personally, I think you will be fine.

[wintersun]

The tires support 7500 lbs. and subtracting the 3340 lb. weight of the truck that leaves a load capacity of 4160 lbs. for the camper. The rear axles can support at least 8900 lbs. on a Ford truck and newer model years can support even more weight.

The difference between the 4160 and the "payload" figure from Ford is due to the limitations of the leaf springs provided. Best way to augment the factory springs is with a set of Supersprings for $450.

Sumo Springs are not a good solution as they do not work like the factory springs and they are only warrantied to last for 2 years. Aftermarket suspension mods that limit the range of travel can work but the do not truly increase the load capacity of the truck. Only more leaf springs can do that without affecting the ride and handling of the truck.

Supersprings makes sets to provide 4,000 lbs. or 5,000 lbs. of total load capacity and I would go with the higher capacity. When turning on slopes more than 50% of the weight is on the "downhill" side of the truck and the leaf springs on that side.

My camper weighs up to 3700 lbs. when loaded for a trip and less than 200 lbs. is carried by the front wheels with more than 3500 lbs. being carried by the rear axle and wheels.

[tcguy]

I had a 2005 F350 SD CCSB Diesel 4 wheel with a 2011 855 Lance camper and when I weighed it with 2 people in the cab, full diesel tank, full fresh water tank and hot water heater, full propane tanks, a few tools, a 20 ton bottle jack, torklift superhitch and 32"extension but nothing else in the camper my weight was 11,920 lbs. My truck GVWR was 11,400 lbs. and my empty truck weight was 8,000 lbs. Once we loaded up the camper with food and supplies we were well over 12,500 lbs. I had upgraded my tires to 285/75r18 Toyo AT II Extreme which have a max load of 4,080 lbs at 80 psi. These were mounted on the factory Ford Aluminum rims. I also installled the Sumo Springs and the Tork Lift Stable Load. With these additions my truck handled the weight fine but I believe the 855S is a heavier unit than mine since it has a slide out.

[GpnAZ]

I just installed 295/70r18 Toyo AT II Extreme tires on my 3500 Ram SRW and these tires are load rated at 4080 lbs. I think you would be good with your load, if you have 18" wheels and you don't mind buying new tires for a new truck. There are other tires out there with high load ratings, but you have to search for them. Truck Camper Magazine.com had a 855S that they went into great detail on the weight of the it and their 855S weighed out loaded approximately 4,100 lbs, you might want to check out their article on that.