Need new tires ALREADY!

[panamacamper1]

I puchased a new Shadow Cruiser 280qbs, it has 205/75/14 load C tires.
I have maybe 1000 miles on them and I always check the tire preasure before trips.
My unit (unloaded) is around 5,200lbs and (loaded) around 6,600lbs. I know you have to run tires at max psi(50) to get full use of 6 ply on tires. It has double axles and each axle is measured at 4,555lbs.
I need to take her in and see if the axles are out of allignment or bent. Is this under warrentee if I am still with-in a year of purchase?
What tires would you recommend?

UPDATE: This is after I did the rotation of the two rear axle tires. Remember I have maybe 700 to 800 miles on these tires. TT was brand new.

Bald on the inside (original left rear axle tire)

Bald on the inside (same tire) picture the other tire bald on the outside.

tread burned off the outside edge, this is from the tire before i rotated them, so it is bald on the outside

These are the tires that I have

[Gpcamper]

Thanks SilnJohn, I plan in doing that ASAP ... Other than that we love the TT, just too bad when your on the road away from major centers there isn't much you can do. I will update when issue is solved

[panamacamper1]

UPDATE:
Currently working with Leos Vacation Center where I purchased my 280 Shadow Cruiser. They are help me with Cruiser RV and Lippert on getting my issue resolved. Looks like they will cover the axles and tires. I will keep you posted. I also recommend Keos to anyone in the market for a new unit.

[SilnJohn]

Same exact wear on my shadow cruiser, we had about 1500 of our own miles plus what ever miles to ship it out to Colorado. We were just under our 1 year warranty so I took it to the dealer. Lippert replaced the axles and the tires. I paid the difference and went with Maxxis tires.

I would take it into the dealer ASAP and have it checked out, several of these lippert axles have been replaced under warranty.

I am measuring tread wear after each trip now to see if the problem is corrected. I think there is an alignment issue as well since my rears wore more than leads. At the first sign of uneven tread wear I am hitting the alignment shop.

Edit Below:

The H188ST are produced for WD (World Distributors) the primary distributor in the US is tredit tire. From what I could find out they are a package rim/tire combo sold to mass markets like RV and boats trailer manuf's. There is not much more info on the brand.

When the dealer replaced my axles they found the bearings were nearly dry also, I am hoping new axles and repacked bearing solves the issue but only time will tell.

[Gpcamper]

We just picked up 2013 shadow cruiser 280 qbs. After 1500 km had major issue with one tire. Completely bald on one right side back tire, but only on the outside, called the dealership and cruiser rv, they offered me $90.00 to replace the tire, I don't think he has shopped much for rv tires... Anyways neither has been any help at all and decided to fix this on my own and hopefully get home ok... I have heard of some major issues with the axle's, so if you are considering this unit maybe wait a few years so they can sort it out.

[mosseater]

panamacamper1 wrote:
snip... The inside tread is bald and the outside tread are bubbled up.

Gee, that sounds familiar. Mine only cost me $420 to get it aligned. Only! Let me guess, you've had a boatload of people insist your running the tires under inflated? I'd check the axle location measurements before I'd get too far down the road on anything else. Leaf or torsion axle?

[gmw_photos]

panamacamper1 wrote:
I will try to post pictures today of the tires. The middle of the tire is perfect. The inside tread is bald and the outside tread are bubbled up.
They are H118ST tires, never heard of them before.

If the inside edge is bald, especially on all four tires, it sure sounds like the axles are overloaded. You say the outside is bubbled....that sounds like a heat issue, which could likely go along with the idea of overloaded.

There have been other threads on this forum where cruiser and the axle supplier have stepped up to the plate and installed a higher load rated axle. If I were you, I would approach them in a reasonable way and see if you can get some relief from them.

I would take the rig to the CAT scale and get the weights so that you can show them you are in fact within the limits of the trailer GVWR.

The tire you refer to ( H118ST ) is apparently one of what I will call "generic chinese produced tires". It is what came as a spare on my funfinder, yet the four tires on the ground that came on it were "Freestar".
As a side note, so far these Freestars are okay. My plan is to replace them soon with LT tires, but as I said, so far they have been okay. I've got about 5K miles on them and they have only used up about 1/32" of tread. All of which means nothing in comparison to your situation, because my trailer only weighs 3800 pounds, so it's only running at a bit more than 50% of it's tire load capacity.

[dodge_guy]

I`m interested to see the pics of the tires!

[panamacamper1]

I will try to post pictures today of the tires. The middle of the tire is perfect. The inside tread is bald and the outside tread are bubbled up.
They are H118ST tires, never heard of them before.

[JJBIRISH]

bob213 wrote:
Find your problem before investing in new tires. If you go to a higher load rating ("D"), make sure your rim can handle the increase in PSI (65PSI). To get a 14" tire in a "D" rating you will probably have to go to the Kumho 857. Keep in mind that they are not an ST tire and the direct replacement for a 205/75/14 ST tire is a 195R14 Kumho.

While they don’t carry the ST designation on the side wall, they are a Euro-metric special purpose trailer tire,,,

[Thistlecap]

It sounds like the same situation I encountered, and if so, this is what I found. I had slightly over 5,000 miles on the trailer. I checked the tires before making a 1500 miles run. The tread looked okay, but I thought "It looks like I'll have to consider replacing them next year." When I reached my destination, they were bald---just a shadow of where the tread pattern had been. I called the dealer that sold us the trailer and also started questioning the best way to check axle alignment. We discussed that for a bit, and finally he said, "How are the tires wearing? If they are wearing on one side of the tires, it's axle alignment. I said they were wearing evenly, but I certainly hadn't expected to see them wear so fast. I had never worn out a set of tires before, or before having to just replace them because of age. Finally, he said, "Look, I have to be honest with you. They put the cheapest tires on the trailers that they can find in China just to get them out the door. I've sold trailers (in Midwest) to peolple going to the West Coast, and had them call about the tires wearing out before they get that far. If you replace them with a quality tire, you won't have this problem again." So far, I haven't.

[gmw_photos]

bob213 wrote:
Find your problem before investing in new tires. If you go to a higher load rating ("D"), make sure your rim can handle the increase in PSI (65PSI). To get a 14" tire in a "D" rating you will probably have to go to the Kumho 857. Keep in mind that they are not an ST tire and the direct replacement for a 205/75/14 ST tire is a 195R14 Kumho.

Good points about the load rating of the rim. If my bet is right that he has Sendel T03 rims, they are rated for 1900 pounds at 60 psi. So by going to a LR D tire, even if he did not run it at it's 65psi max, and just ran it at 60 psi, he would still be in an improved situation compared to a LR C tire at 50 psi.

For what it is worth, I asked the question of both Sendel and the folks at cruiser rv if I could run LR D tires, and use 65 psi safely on these wheels, and they both said yes. I'm not trying to start an argument about whether a person "should" run the wheel past 60 psi.....so hopefully this will all stay on topic. I'm just passing that info along for what it's worth.

[skipnchar]

The ONLY viable choice is Maxxis tires for ST rated tires but even they will not do well when axles are not aligned correctly. It certainly MUST be that your axles are badly out of alignment. I use the same load range C tires on my 8,000 lb. trailer and average over 40,000 towing miles out of a set of tires.
Good luck / Skip

[fla-gypsy]

Make sure you address any possible issues and replace with Maxxis brand

[bob213]

Find your problem before investing in new tires. If you go to a higher load rating ("D"), make sure your rim can handle the increase in PSI (65PSI). To get a 14" tire in a "D" rating you will probably have to go to the Kumho 857. Keep in mind that they are not an ST tire and the direct replacement for a 205/75/14 ST tire is a 195R14 Kumho.

[Huntindog]

panamacamper1 wrote:
I found the axle rating here: http://www.cruiserrv.com/shadow-cruiser/specifications.html

That is not the axle rating. That is how much weight was on the axles when it was built.
The axles usually have a plate on them with the rating.
A common axle for a TT like yours would be 3500#. And that is the most it should ever have on it.