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Oliver Factory Tour: Pls Help Interpret My Findings?

CopilotCompanio
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Any specific suggestions? I don't want to find myself saying, down the pike, "I wish I would have looked more closely at that".

I've updated this thread with 50+ pictures & 10 videos but I'm still not so sure how to interpret what I'm seeing?
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This picture illustrates the difference between Pro-dex and Reflectix. Notice that the core is foam as opposed to bubble-wrap.

My Mom, wishing she would have worn sturdier shoes by this point.

An outer shell.

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Ditto.

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Ditto.

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The frame is constructed with a grade of aluminum typically used in the aircraft industry.

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Frame for a single axle Elite.

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I thought you gear-heads would like this shot. Now, please tell me what it means?

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Double axle waiting its turn for installation.
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This is Oliver's version of a gutter. The awning is fully enclosed while stowed but it is a manual awning,

These 6-volt batteries are maintained by a single water source. There's probably a name for this but my vocabulary is lacking. Anyone want to satisfy my curiosity?

In response to my question about the most likely place for stress cracks, I was told that, at one time, the battery box was it. Since then, I'm told, there have been design changes and the problem is now remedied.

Yep. That's me... leaving no stone unturned.

Entrance to the factory. Shiny Ollies have humble beginnings.

150,000 square feet of manufacturing space and 60 employees produce 2 Ollies per week.

This is the mold for one of the fiberglass shells. There is only one. It's the cornerstone of the design. Any floorplan changes would necessitate the manufacture of a new mold. Oliver employees do not anticipate that happening anytime soon.

I crawled inside this shell but I didn't have very good light.

Ditto on the light.

An inner shell covered with insulation.
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One upgrade possibility is to swap plain white fiberglass for this composite material designed to look like granite.

Front door of the showroom/office.

Prepare to sit in a camping chair while you choose your finishes. I thought it was appropriate for the occasion.

It's a full house on the roof.

The throne. Enough said. Unless you care to opine?

The bedspreads are messy because we'd given the beds a whirl.

This was, IMHO, the most fascinating discovery of the trip. Anybody know what it is? This funnel-looking thing (not the blue tube) is found multiple times on the bottom hull? It is... drumroll... a weep-hole. They're designed to shed any moisture which may accumulate inside the hull. So, while other manufacturers would like to hold us personally responsible for the fact that moisture accumulates, these guys accept it readily & plan for it. Different, right? Maybe not? I'm a newbie. Please set me straight?

All the metal parts you see are heavy-duty, high quality stuff. I think it is impossible to convey this with words and a picture. Seeing is believing.

The handles for the knife valves, as well as the valves themselves, are all fully insulated. You'll notice that even the door on this exterior panel is insulated?

The waste hose is stored within close proximity of the connection. In fact, you could drive with it connected, if you so desire.
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There were a total of sixteen units in various stages of manufacture.

The shell on the right has Nida-core on the outside and fiberglass on the inside. The right hand shell is an "inner" shell while the shell on the left is an "outer" shell.

Scaffolding used to install components on the roof.

Spools of wire before they are cut to length.

Jigs are used to measure the lengths of wire by hand.

Lengths of wire are eventually bundled.

More jigs.

My 73- year old mother. She was a good sport.

Mattresses, sort-of. It's 4" of foam. And upgrade will buy you 6". We thought it was comfortable enough but for how long?

Yet to be tattooed.
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My best friend and his wife bought an Ollie and took delivery early this year. They have had it out a few times, and they love it. They were leaning towards an Airstream originally, but this appears to be a more modernized version of the Airstream line of thinking.

There's no doubt that the Oliver is well constructed - his Legacy Elite II is essentially the same length as the Lance 2155 that my wife and I bought this summer. However, the Oliver is considerably heavier, for much less interior space. It has no permanent bed, a two-seater dinette, and a wet shower. In contrast, with less weight, we have a permanent queen bed, full dinette and dry shower, with two slides.

The Ollie has great ground clearance, a plus for the boondocking we both like to do. I think their power management options are pretty decent as well, but you might still inquire about the manufacturers for the power charger converter, and options for power inverters, solar, solar controller, etc. They used decent stuff on my buddy's, but not what I'd select if I had full choice of components.

In short - I think my buddy has a nice trailer, for him. It's really overbuilt, which fits in with his style: he comes from a blue-water sailing background and his little sailboat (a Baba) is a marine tank. The Ollie is a tank too - but it's very expensive for what you get, and although mainstream manufacturer's are often derided for building "junk" - you can do a lot of custom work, fixing, and modding for the $70,000 price tag on a 24' Oliver!

hohenwald48
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Not sure, but I wonder if the rearward placement of the trailer axle makes anti-sway less necessary?
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Tom_Trostel
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CoPilot,
Casita puts an anti-sway bar on almost every trailer that leaves their factory.

coolmom42
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CopilotCompanion wrote:
I'd like to know whether they discourage anti-sway bars. I read somewhere that the stress points on a molded fiberglass coach are different from a boxy one. This poster said that anti-sway bars could actually cause damage to an eggshell-like camper. I'll find out.


The model I saw had an Anderson hitch on it, and that is what they sell them with. No bars, but a chain.
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coolmom42
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Sorry, dup post.
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coolmom42
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I have looked at Olivers and talked to a couple who own one. The fit and finish is amazingly good, with first class components.

BUT the couple I saw had spent the night in a thunderstorm, and were going back to the factory because they had a leak around an outside speaker. They were on a shakedown trip and only about 30 miles from the factory.

One concern I have is accessing the wiring, plumbing, and tanks. The salesperson told us it's all between the double lower shells. So take a hard look at that.

They are definitely designed for a single person or a couple who doesn't mind sharing a small space. Not for families.
Single empty-nester in Middle TN, sometimes with a friend or grandchild on board

cruising_spud
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We currently have a Class C, but I have given a lot of thought to the Oliver/Escape trailers.

BUT, the wet bath really causes me to pause.

So, I too, would say- could you ask the company if they plan to, or is there any way, to make a separate shower?

Thanks.
Kathy

CopilotCompanio
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I'd like to know whether they discourage anti-sway bars. I read somewhere that the stress points on a molded fiberglass coach are different from a boxy one. This poster said that anti-sway bars could actually cause damage to an eggshell-like camper. I'll find out.
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CopilotCompanio
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I have asked for a meeting after the tour with someone who is qualified to answer all the questions from this forum. So, please feel free to "pile on"!
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DW: Copilot & Companion
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