Payload, is there a right answer?

[Powerdude]

Well, I've learned a lot of stuff here, and I would like to thank you all for lots of valuable input and discussions.

I want to make sure I get this right, assuming there is a right answer.

Truck is a 2016 F250 CC SB XLT with camper package overloads.

I even took it to a scale. Full tank, with just me in it, and the Torqlift camper tiedowns installed. Stableloads are going on tomorrow.

Tires are E rated tires at 3640 lbs each. (18" wheels)

Truck is registered for 12,000 lbs (only other option was 8k lbs, which was too low).
Here's the data.
Sticker
Scaled weight
If I go by the GVWR, payload is only 2460 lbs.
If I go by adding up axle weights, payload is 2840.
If I just add up the rear tire ratings, and subtract scaled weight, payload is 4020 lbs.

If I used the licensed weight, subtracting scaled weight, payload is 4460 lbs.

Calculations here
So which is legal, and which is safe, and what would you do?

I'm aiming for a used 2200-2500 lbs camper (no slide, like a Lance 845 or 825), but a slide (Lance 861, or 821) would be nice to have...and that's 3000 lbs...

Opinions?

[JIMNLIN]

I want to make sure I get this right, assuming there is a right answer.

Truck is a 2016 F250 CC SB with camper package overloads.

The F250 with the camper package (heavy service package) has the same front and rear suspension as a F350 SRW truck.

So which is legal, and which is safe, and what would you do?

Legal issues ?? ..... in your state it can be a registered weight if your state has one (not all states have one) and the lessor of a tire/wheel/suspension/axle rating.
Your registered weigh means nothing in my state or another state with a different gross or gross combined or a ladin or a tonnage or a number for registration.../etc.
Like my state troop division captain says "the department doesn't care how much weight a non commercial vehicle is registered at as long as a drive/steer axle/tire/wheel load numbers aren't exceeded".
Your state will have the real answers for whats legal for you there.


Safe ??
Your tires may have a 3640 lb rating but Fords OEM 17" wheels have a 3195 lb rating and the 18"/20" OEM wheels have a 3590 lb capacity. I wouldn't operate any tire or a wheel at max loads.
I would go with Fords OEM tire wheel ratings....just to be on the safe side.

[Rubiranch]

I believe the payload ratings of these new trucks are set by corporate attorneys - not the engineers that designed and built the trucks.

My truck is "over-loaded" and it doesn't seem to bother the truck what so ever.

There should be a sticker in your glove box that will give you an idea of how much they recommend the max weight for a camper for your truck. Its a good place to start.

Mine says 2935 lbs. My camper weighs 3760 lbs. No problem.

[Powerdude]

jimh425 wrote:
Try http://forums.goodsamclub.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/29209626.cfm

Thank you. Edited first post with relevant info.

[jefe_4x4]

Mitch,
Your F150 certainly can tow almost anything. Just ask the thousands upon thousands of 1-series owners who regularly tow big trailers. The stretch in the load capacity and tow capacity of one and two series trucks has widened in recent years, especially with gas engines and 2WD. It's the carrying that's the problem: putting that 3500 pounds directly over the rear axle. Your 7700 pound GVWR is almost as high as my old Dodge 2500's, 8800 pounds (or 9450 with the camper package single secondary spring). If it works for you, go for it.
jefe

[MitchF150]

My payload won't load either... Because I have a 15 series truck, I can't tow anything according to most folks on here.. ha, ha!

Mitch

[DOITHARD]

What happened to this site? When I joined there weren't all these bs advertising...

[jimh406]

Try http://forums.goodsamclub.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/29209626.cfm

[Kayteg1]

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