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RAM 3500 SRW - Aisin vs. 68RFE - Update

j3ff9ack
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Looking at new trucks - seems hard to find the Aisin in stock. Are the benefits worth the premium price? I tow in the Rockies (Idaho/Wyoming/Montana) so I suspect the Aisin may be worth it if the integration between the transmission/engine/exhaust brake/cruise control is ironed out. But, if the 68RFE is adequate, I can take my pick off the lot and negotiate a better price at the end of December.

Appreciate any thoughts or advice by current/former owners - thanks.
2007 Jayco JayFlight 27.5 RKS
2014 RAM 3500 SRW CC CTD 68RFE
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Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
If the RAM I have now was a POS I would seriously be looking at a GMC they have really improved their looks.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

alboy
Explorer
Explorer
Maybe you should have looked at a new GM,always being a Cummins guy, but Gee this 3500 truck rides,shifts and drives awesome,just giving you a few digs, Ram just seems to keep upping theBar , no question they are Making a Statement!!!

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
larry barnhart wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
I like the interior color. The stitching looks great. Only bad bar is the goofy grin that never leaves your face!

Sounds like you got a screaming deal. Happy for ya!

The 68RFE is a great trans. Mine has been flawless over 55K.


I agree... I like the white stitching on black leather.


WOO HOO!!! Look everyone Fish and I agree!!!!!

I REALLY like the LIMITED black interior but just don't understand why they want more for one than the LongHorn??? My Son ordered the LIMITED 3500srw with all options and rear air and I ordered the Longhorn Dually rear air all options but auto dim and his truck was slightly more than mine.



You buy what you want, 98 buys what he wants so what's the discussion for and I don't buy either and no problem here .

chevman


Oh Larry, quit letting logic cloud your thinking! :B
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

larry_barnhart
Explorer
Explorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
I like the interior color. The stitching looks great. Only bad bar is the goofy grin that never leaves your face!

Sounds like you got a screaming deal. Happy for ya!

The 68RFE is a great trans. Mine has been flawless over 55K.


I agree... I like the white stitching on black leather.


WOO HOO!!! Look everyone Fish and I agree!!!!!

I REALLY like the LIMITED black interior but just don't understand why they want more for one than the LongHorn??? My Son ordered the LIMITED 3500srw with all options and rear air and I ordered the Longhorn Dually rear air all options but auto dim and his truck was slightly more than mine.



You buy what you want, 98 buys what he wants so what's the discussion for and I don't buy either and no problem here .

chevman
chevman
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Cummins12V98
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Explorer III
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
I like the interior color. The stitching looks great. Only bad bar is the goofy grin that never leaves your face!

Sounds like you got a screaming deal. Happy for ya!

The 68RFE is a great trans. Mine has been flawless over 55K.


I agree... I like the white stitching on black leather.


WOO HOO!!! Look everyone Fish and I agree!!!!!

I REALLY like the LIMITED black interior but just don't understand why they want more for one than the LongHorn??? My Son ordered the LIMITED 3500srw with all options and rear air and I ordered the Longhorn Dually rear air all options but auto dim and his truck was slightly more than mine.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

FishOnOne
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
I like the interior color. The stitching looks great. Only bad bar is the goofy grin that never leaves your face!

Sounds like you got a screaming deal. Happy for ya!

The 68RFE is a great trans. Mine has been flawless over 55K.


I agree... I like the white stitching on black leather.
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

Cummins12V98
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Explorer III
I like the interior color. The stitching looks great. Only bad bar is the goofy grin that never leaves your face!

Sounds like you got a screaming deal. Happy for ya!

The 68RFE is a great trans. Mine has been flawless over 55K.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

NinerBikes
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Explorer
wilber1 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
If I were looking at a 3500 it would have to be the aisin. Chrysler is slowly outsourcing it's tranny's for a reason.


Really?????

What is your source on that one?


ZF and Aisin...

In addition you continue to tout that your next truck will have a Aisin tranny.


Why not license build the best from companies who specialize in building transmissions? ZF 8 speed, also used by Audi, BMW, Bentley, Jaguar, Maserati, Lancia, VW, Rolls Royce, Land Rover etc.

Got one in my Audi. Hands down the best transmission I have ever had in any vehicle. Can't think of one good reason not to use it.

My VW Touareg TDI has the 8 speed Aisin AWD version, not the ZF 8 speed. I can tell you that ATF fluid for an Aisin gearbox is a lot less expensive than the stuff that goes in anything german, like a ZF. The germans build great manual gearboxes, I am not so sure about their automatic transmissions.

The Aisin in my Touareg is the nicest automatic I've ever driven in, quality of shift wise. It is one slick tranny. Time will tell how it holds up pulling a 4000 pound dinkydoo 21 foot travel trailer, but I do plan on doing the ATF with a full change out flush/purge at 60k miles, probably 12 to 14 qts worth.

ib516
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Awesome!
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07 Dodge 3500 4x4 SRW Mega 5.9L CTD 3.73
14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
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07 Dodge 1500 5.7L Hemi 3.55 / 2010 Jayco 17z
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j3ff9ack
Explorer
Explorer
Well, found our new truck at Dennis Dillon:




It's a 2014 with the 68RFE - the Aisin trucks didn't have the other options and while I didn't really want the Limited, the pricing was very good - roughly 25% off sticker with all the applicable discounts. Buying experience was okay - they still tried to sell me a bunch of extra******until I threatened to walk out - got out of the chair and they were straight up after that.

I know - you want to see the payload:




Need to get a few personal touches done, but pretty pleased with the truck so far. Best of all, wife approved and she drove it home.

More eye candy:








Now I can't wait for spring!
2007 Jayco JayFlight 27.5 RKS
2014 RAM 3500 SRW CC CTD 68RFE

Bedlam
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Some more food to digest this Thanksgiving weekend: Ford is even putting the 6.7 Powerstroke and 6R140 in their F650 and F750 this coming model year. Dodge/Ram has only had a chassis cab since 2008 verses GM (who dropped out of this segment) and Ford who have been doing this much longer.

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blt2ski
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If a given motor is put in a vehicle that falls in the mdt range, ie 14K-26K lbs, it must be an MDT setup, or at least usable as one. So the folks with the Cummins motors, the dmax, ford, navistar v8 motors are also rated to MDT status.

Marty
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2014 Chevy 1500 Dual cab 4x4
92 Red-e-haul 12K equipment trailer

Cummins12V98
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retispcsi wrote:
Also forgot to mention Ram has a true medium duty engine with a true medium duty transmission.


True dat!

They also back up their claims by complying with the J2707 standards not just making up numbers!
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

retispcsi
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Explorer
Also forgot to mention Ram has a true medium duty engine with a true medium duty transmission.
2015 Mobile Suites 38 RSSA. 2014 Ram CC DRW 4x4 60 gal RDS Aisin 4:10.
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