The 4.0L V8 diesel Touareg we can't have.

[ShinerBock]

VW Touareg with a 4.0L V8 diesel engine producing 416hp/664lb-ft with the ability to tow a little over 7,700 lbs. I wish Ford, GM, or Ram slapped this engine in their half tons instead of a small 3.0L diesel with dismal horsepower numbers. I would be more tempted to buy a half ton diesel with these kind of power ratings than what is currently available.

Although, these power numbers would probably be lower in the US since our diesel NOx emissions requirements are stricter than the EU's. VW would have to decrease output to meet US emissions similar to how VM Motori has to decrease power output of the US Ecodiesel versus that of EU markets.


INSTANT CLASSIC: VW’S EUROPEAN-SPEC, 416HP TOUAREG DIESEL

[RobertRyan]

ShinerBock wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

IdaD wrote:
I owned a VW once. Emphasis on the once.

I bought a new US Made 81 VW diesel pickup. Sold it at 300k. 44mpg, loved it!

It could happen again.....with a little help from Ford.


VW is still '100 percent' investigating a pickup truck for the US

It seems with VW's recent partnership with Ford might make it possible for VW to make another pickup in the US.

They are not using Ford to make a Pickup for the US. VW can make a Pickup based on the Atlas for the NA market. They will be using Ford to design a new Amarok and a new Crafter will use extra Ford Capacity to buddy with the Transit

[RobertRyan]

That is because the US emissions are stricter than in Europe and elsewhere especially in the 2b (3/4 ton) truck class that the Titan Cummins is in. As I said in my initial post, the 416 hp / 660 lb ft that this VW puts out would probably be reduced if it came to the US to comply with US emissions just like the VM Motori 3.0L(Ecodiesel) is reduced for US markets.

US Tier Diesels DO NOT meet Euro 6 compliance, as such cannot be sold where Euro 6 is in force. Japanese Diesels which do not meet Euro 6 requirements are freely sold in the US

[RobertRyan]

wilber1 wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

wilber1 wrote:
VW is concentrating on electric now, I doubt we will see another diesel VW group product in NA.

Pity, I was hoping we might see the Euro Audi SQ5 here. 3.0L diesel mild hybrid. 347 HP 516 Lb Ft.

48V electrical system with secondary electric supercharger that kicks in at slow speed to eliminate any turbo lag.

Actually it is not. VW seems to be building everything.: Petrol, LPG, Electric and Diesel
The Toureg is brand new

They do but they are concentrating on electrics. Audi and Porsche have dropped out of LeMans prototype racing after dominating it for decades and are only supporting production based race cars and Formula E.
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They are committing 80B Euros 91B USD to electrics and plan to stop developing diesels by 2026.

Risky maybe but that's the plan.

I will believe when i see it, the new Audi's and the Touareg are not supposed to exist according to the " we have changed" VW PR

[RobertRyan]

time2roll wrote:

SidecarFlip wrote:
Won't find any foreign **** in my driveway.

Most 'American' vehicles by cars.com

https://www.cars.com/articles/cars-coms-2019-american-made-index-whats-the-most-american-car-404547/

Built by the Japanese manufacturers

[RobertRyan]

ShinerBock wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

Ah well you live in the US, where you cannot get this. We can

And your point is? You want me to start naming trucks and SUV's that you guys don't get?

Although, last time I checked, you live in Australia and this will not be sold there either for at least another few years. Australia currently only gets the 254 hp 3.0L V6 TDI version and not this 416 hp 4.0L V8 TDI engine.

It will be sold in Australia but NOT the US

[time2roll]

SidecarFlip wrote:
Won't find any foreign **** in my driveway.

Most 'American' vehicles by cars.com

https://www.cars.com/articles/cars-coms-2019-american-made-index-whats-the-most-american-car-404547/

[SidecarFlip]

My get around car is a Ford Focus hatch, 41 mpg and built in Wayne, Michigan not across the pond by UAW workers, like me.

Won't find any foreign **** in my driveway.

[ShinerBock]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

IdaD wrote:
I owned a VW once. Emphasis on the once.

I bought a new US Made 81 VW diesel pickup. Sold it at 300k. 44mpg, loved it!

It could happen again.....with a little help from Ford.


VW is still '100 percent' investigating a pickup truck for the US

It seems with VW's recent partnership with Ford might make it possible for VW to make another pickup in the US.

[ShinerBock]

RobertRyan wrote:

rexlion wrote:
Touareg, too hard to pronounce.

There is always the Cummins in the Titan for those who want a diesel in that size range.

It is a 5 litre but does not put out anywhere near 430hp and 660lbs ft of torque

That is because the US emissions are stricter than in Europe and elsewhere especially in the 2b (3/4 ton) truck class that the Titan Cummins is in. As I said in my initial post, the 416 hp / 660 lb ft that this VW puts out would probably be reduced if it came to the US to comply with US emissions just like the VM Motori 3.0L(Ecodiesel) is reduced for US markets.

Another issue is the fact that this VW diesel uses a compound turbocharger system without one being a VGT or some sort of valve to control air. You would need at least one of these to control EGR flow and drive pressures with US emissions equipment which may also reduce peak power output if it were added to this 4.0L TDI. Since European emissions requirements are less strict and do not require an EGR to meet them, this 4.0L TDI can get away with a compound turbo set up there while it could not here.

[Cummins12V98]

IdaD wrote:
I owned a VW once. Emphasis on the once.

I bought a new US Made 81 VW diesel pickup. Sold it at 300k. 44mpg, loved it!

[ShinerBock]

RobertRyan wrote:

Ah well you live in the US, where you cannot get this. We can

And your point is? You want me to start naming trucks and SUV's that you guys don't get?

Although, last time I checked, you live in Australia and this will not be sold there either for at least another few years. Australia currently only gets the 254 hp 3.0L V6 TDI version and not this 416 hp 4.0L V8 TDI engine.

[wilber1]

RobertRyan wrote:

wilber1 wrote:
VW is concentrating on electric now, I doubt we will see another diesel VW group product in NA.

Pity, I was hoping we might see the Euro Audi SQ5 here. 3.0L diesel mild hybrid. 347 HP 516 Lb Ft.

48V electrical system with secondary electric supercharger that kicks in at slow speed to eliminate any turbo lag.

Actually it is not. VW seems to be building everything.: Petrol, LPG, Electric and Diesel
The Toureg is brand new

They do but they are concentrating on electrics. Audi and Porsche have dropped out of LeMans prototype racing after dominating it for decades and are only supporting production based race cars and Formula E.

They are committing 80B Euros 91B USD to electrics and plan to stop developing diesels by 2026.

Risky maybe but that's the plan.

[RobertRyan]

goducks10 wrote:
I once owned a Vanagon. I know why they named it Vanagon. It always seemed like I had to fix the Van-Again.

Different VW's have different reputations, Skoda is more reliable than VW, VW the Corporation only sells 1 % of its Global output in the US

[RobertRyan]

BenK wrote:
I’d consider the recently announced VW Electric Micro Bus...always loved my time with gals and buddies cutting school to go to the beach...


Like their advertised...369 horsepower powered by a massive 111 kWh battery pack

https://electrek.co/2019/05/09/vw-electric-autonomous-van-life-id-buzz-microbus-video/

Where there is a 0.02% take up of EV's no way. They have better luck with EV Busses

[RobertRyan]

rexlion wrote:
Touareg, too hard to pronounce.

There is always the Cummins in the Titan for those who want a diesel in that size range.

It is a 5 litre but does not put out anywhere near 430hp and 660lbs ft of torque