Too much tail for the dog?

[Cummins12V98]

This happened yesterday North bound I-5 thru Mt Vernon, WA.

Someone familiar with GM's may be able to tell was it a 1500/2500 ?

Those little backhoes are HEAVY along with the trailer.

[Beaker]

STOP the assumptions it had something to do with the truck, trailer, or set up.

If we did that, we would have to go to bed.

And stop watching Ferguson.

[Cummins12V98]

blt2ski wrote:
Cummins,

I doubt more truck would have helped. I have been dang near swung around once with my 12K dump truck pulling a bobcat on my ET with the trailer being around 8K lbs. Too little hitch wt! A singel axel trailer with a pallet of sod on the rear, dang near took out a 1 ton dually pulling it, again, due to too little HW!! BIG twucks do not stop issues like this. THey can get swung, moved by the trailer too!

My pic is not working, as the photo hosting company has gone ALL pay for to show pic like this etc. what a pita!

marty

I agree on the hitch weight from personal experience! Bottom line the guy was towing too much for that truck.

[blt2ski]

Cummins,

I doubt more truck would have helped. I have been dang near swung around once with my 12K dump truck pulling a bobcat on my ET with the trailer being around 8K lbs. Too little hitch wt! A singel axel trailer with a pallet of sod on the rear, dang near took out a 1 ton dually pulling it, again, due to too little HW!! BIG twucks do not stop issues like this. THey can get swung, moved by the trailer too!

My pic is not working, as the photo hosting company has gone ALL pay for to show pic like this etc. what a pita!

marty

[mowin]

Well, at least the mini stayed on the trailer. Must have been chained down pretty good.

In my area, I see guys trailering their equipment with no chains all the time. "We're just going down the road a couple miles".... drives me nuts...

[Cummins12V98]

I was told Port-O-Potties on the road lead to starting the accident.

Perfect example of when MORE tow vehicle than less is a good thing!

[camperforlife]

dodge guy wrote:

camperforlife wrote:
It is a 1500. The tailgate edge is slightly scalloped on the bottom where the screw indents are as they are only on the 1500's. 2500's have a straight edge & are glued on.

And there is a slight "crook" to the body line at the front of the fender, and the 1500`s had a run in the paint just at the rear edge of the front fender, anyone that knows GM`s would know this!!!! :S

:B

Chuckle, chuckle, but the tailgate edge is a very simple way to tell the difference between the 1500 & 2500 for that vintage GM truck.

[sportsman_500]

WE DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPEND.

Come on, it is obvious. His house is right there and he has a project in the backyard. He just needs to learn how to back-up.
:B:S:B:S:B:S:B:S:B:S

[blt2ski]

Cummins,

I can not get my online pic hosting site to show pics any more. It WAS free, now they want $$$$$$$.

Anyway.

Another thought, is the trailer appears to be a tilt bed. The design on these makes it hard to balance them for a reasonably sane tow. I personally would not buy a tilt bed of ANY size. They are designed with almost no HW< the axels are not back 60% like beavertail or equal style trailers. Right about 51-53%, so getting enough HW is tough. I have seen many, including tandem dual setups swaying going down the road behind tandem dually dumptrucks.

I personally do not feel it is probably a truck size issue as some would like to say it is. Yeah, too big for my tastes to pull with a 1500, but that is me too! I might/would tow that weight with a ball/pintle hitch trailer with a 1500, but not my first choice.

marty

[Peg_Leg]

He needed 4 wheel drive to back it up that hill.

[dodge_guy]

camperforlife wrote:
It is a 1500. The tailgate edge is slightly scalloped on the bottom where the screw indents are as they are only on the 1500's. 2500's have a straight edge & are glued on.

And there is a slight "crook" to the body line at the front of the fender, and the 1500`s had a run in the paint just at the rear edge of the front fender, anyone that knows GM`s would know this!!!! :S

:B

[camperforlife]

It is a 1500. The tailgate edge is slightly scalloped on the bottom where the screw indents are as they are only on the 1500's. 2500's have a straight edge & are glued on.

[Cummins12V98]

He had about 100' of rubber on the road starting near the monkey turds then went over near the median then across all the lanes into the ditch.

[Cummins12V98]

blt2ski wrote:
I would agree, that too little hitch wt was probably the cause. Been there done that pulling my bobcat with my MDT dump truck. Has ZERO hitch wt, and trailer was moving back and forth. Moved the bobcat forward so I had the typical 800-1000 lbs HW for the total usually in the 7500-8500 lbs tween axel and HW depending upon tools, extra bucket and fork attachment I sometimes carried at the front.....Pulled straight as an arrow.

BUT with that in mind, the truck does look 1500'ish IMHO. So probably a bit over tailed for my sence of well being.

Here is my combo with the 2800 lbs mini trackhoe, bobcat....usually about 10500-11K on the axels, 1400-1600 hitch weight! assuming the link works......

No pic

[RinconVTR]

STOP the assumptions it had something to do with the truck, trailer, or set up.

These types of treads just encourage fear mongering.

WE DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPEND.