Toyota Diesel

[Raften]

Hope this isn't old news, but news to me. Just read that Tundra will come out with a Cummins in 2016. Optional I assume.

[Bionic_Man]

CKNSLS wrote:

Raften wrote:
I don't think payload is what they are aiming for.

OK- I get it. The market are for those who want a diesel for a grocery getter.

That makes as much sense as selling ice cubes at the North Pole!

Actually, it makes perfect sense. The vast majority of 1500 series trucks are not used to haul heavy loads. They are a glorified sedan, mainly used for commuting and Home Depot runs occasionally on the weekends. MPG is what this is about - both for marketing as well as CAFE purposes.

As far as RAM goes, the 3.0 VM engine has been receiving great reviews in regards to MPG. That said, if the Cummins has similar numbers and is cost equivalent, I would say that RAM made a mistake not going with that engine.

[CKNSLS]

Raften wrote:
I don't think payload is what they are aiming for.

OK- I get it. The market are for those who want a diesel for a grocery getter.

That makes as much sense as selling ice cubes at the North Pole!

[dadwolf2]

JumboJet wrote:
Nissan Titan and Toyota Tundra each getting the 5.0 L Cummins. Either of those will make nice tow vehicles for small to midsize travel trailers and 5th wheels.

Too bad the RAM 1500 is only getting the 3.2 Liter Cummins.

IMO, it makes sense for the RAM 1500 to get a 3.2 L . RAM already has the big diesel for the 2500 & 3500 . Would it make sense to put a BIG diesel in a 1500? Or perhaps you were thinking something a little bigger like a 4.0 to 4.5 liter engine??

Actually it's not a 3.2L Cummins, it's an Italian firm VM Motori engine.

[Raften]

I don't think payload is what they are aiming for.

[fla-gypsy]

CKNSLS wrote:
I believe they will both come up short ON PAYLOAD!

This!

[CKNSLS]

I believe they will both come up short ON PAYLOAD!

[ScottG]

I think Ram's strategy is to provide a more fuel efficient option.
Heck, diesels have (arguably) had enough power for 20 years.
What some of us want is better FE.

[Raften]

They may be late to the party but I suspect they will sell many to people who use trucks in their work. Good mileage, torque, and economy to maintain will win over many, as will the diesel Ram.

[805gregg]

They are 25 years late to the diesel party

[billtex]

It is old news, what little I have read about them sounded like they would still be in 1/2 ton trucks, so not really applicable to TC's.
The diesel engine will lower the payload even further.

Great news for those that tow...

[Targa]

Yep sounds like a great motor on paper. I never would have thought that one day the Ram would be getting an Italian diesel while Nissan and Toyota would get the Cummins . Might be a bit of overkill but those trucks will never have an issue with any inclines with their limited capacities. I can't help but think that the much stouter (power wise anyway) Cummins is really going to bite Ram in the rear if it can average within a couple mpg's of the Italian diesel.

JumboJet,

The Ram is getting a 3.0 VM Mitori not a 3.2 Cummins.

[JumboJet]

Nissan Titan and Toyota Tundra each getting the 5.0 L Cummins. Either of those will make nice tow vehicles for small to midsize travel trailers and 5th wheels.

Too bad the RAM 1500 is only getting the 3.2 Liter Cummins.

I met a Tundra the other day that was hauling a Lance 855 TC. He was a little nose high going down the road.