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Trailer Brakes or Controller

woodsmitch
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My brakes got weak on my HH II and I adjusted them which didn't make much difference. I was thinking maybe I need a brake job but I now notice that when I apply the brakes the read-out only reads 3.0. I have it set on 9.0 and the setting on Heavy Electric Brakes. I can apply them by hand and it goes to 9 just like it should and almost locks the wheels at 20-25 mph, but I can stand on the pedal as hard as I can and it only reads 3. I am fairly certain in the past it would go to 9 with the pedal also. Am I correct in thinking it should go to the setting?
I appreciate your assistance!
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woodsmitch
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OK I checked the readout while moving and the numbers increase while moving. Tried at 20, 30 and it worked as it is supposed to. Learn something every day! So I guess I will do a brake job. I'm thinking complete with backing plates and all. And self adjusting! Thanks for everyone's help!

BenK
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woodsmitch wrote:
My brakes got weak on my HH II and I adjusted them which didn't make much difference. I was thinking maybe I need a brake job but I now notice that when I apply the brakes the read-out only reads 3.0. I have it set on 9.0 and the setting on Heavy Electric Brakes. I can apply them by hand and it goes to 9 just like it should and almost locks the wheels at 20-25 mph,


Says it is in the TV side...since you can lock the trailer brakes
using the 'manual' mode






but I can stand on the pedal as hard as I can and it only reads 3. I am fairly certain in the past it would go to 9 with the pedal also.


This confirms that it is on the TV side






Am I correct in thinking it should go to the setting?
I appreciate your assistance!


There is a lot going on with any 'highly integrated' trailer brake
system

'Highly integrated' will/might have the traction control sending
some message to the brake controller to NOT go full on

Or...the ABS system doing a similar/same

Or...the ECU doing same/similar

Or...the tranny computer doing similar/same

Or...anyone of the above input sensors acting up

The inter-dependencies and prerequisites is unknown and guess even
to the dealer techs

Then the trailer wiring (routing, sizing, connectors, etc) and the
brake wiring/magnets might be affecting the TV brake controller

Since 'highly integrated' brake controllers use the MC PSI as its
sense input and the manual lever/button does NOT...maybe you might
have a problem with the TV's braking system...low fluid, MC PSI
sensor acting up or going bad...air in the brake fluid...etc
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woodsmitch
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The controller is the OEM IBC. Truck is a 2012 Ram. I am going to have to check about the speed that I was moving when we change parks this week.

RCMAN46
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Explorer
If it took a lot of adjustment then it may take a couple hundred miles before the shoes wear in so that you have full shoe contact.

When you say you stand on the peddle. Is that when going 30 mph or more?

What brake controller do you have?

woodsmitch
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I have just finished adjusting the brakes! When I started having problems.

donn0128
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When is the last time you actually adjusted the trailer brakes?