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Well made off road trailer

nonrev321
Explorer
Explorer
Hello,

Investigating trailers that can take going down unpaved roads. I'm not talking real rough but more on the line of well maintained two track roads. Something with Good ground clearance, good size tanks and well made enough to take the occasional rut hole (driving slowly). Something approx 30ft long five or take a few feet.

People have suggested Komfort (no longer made)
Adak (to expensive)

Can any one advise on a Model that would meet these qualifications?

Thanks

Rgds

nornev
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theoldwizard1
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goducks10 wrote:
Lynnmor wrote:
theoldwizard1 wrote:


goducks10 wrote:
Most of the industry doesn't offer shocks either.

And I applaud them for this !



Now that needs an "expert" explanation.


When he said that, I figured he was clueless and gave up. Trolling?

Very poorly worded response on my part ! I applaud Outdoors RV for adding shocks.

My point previously was that Outdoors RV made many claims that I did NOT feel were really backed up by their videos.

nonrev321
Explorer
Explorer
Good observations on the trailer manufacturing old wizard 1. Nice
Thanks

goducks10
Explorer
Explorer
Lynnmor wrote:
theoldwizard1 wrote:


goducks10 wrote:
Most of the industry doesn't offer shocks either.

And I applaud them for this !



Now that needs an "expert" explanation.


When he said that, I figured he was clueless and gave up. Trolling?

tnrv_er
Explorer II
Explorer II
Outdoorsrv Creekside 26RLS comes to mind.

TrailerTravele1
Explorer
Explorer
"Anyone know anything about Lance trailers"

We have a Lance 1685 (smaller than what you wanted but perfect for us). We've taken it alot of places where there are no other RV's - Chaco Canyon comes to mind. But not really "off-roading".

It's a well make trailer, just remember that any trailer being hauled down the road is subjected to 4.5 on the richter scale for hours at a time. But our Lance does well.

For more on the reasons we like it, I wrote a blog post Why We Love Our Lance 1685 Travel Trailer

That being said, our friends that owned the big sister to our Lance (the 1885) and then moved to Whitefish, MT, sold their Lance and got a Nash which they like even better. They do alot of seriously off the beaten path hunting and like the higher clearance and sturdier construction of the Nash (manufactured by the same folks that make Artic Fox).

If you decide on a Lance, you may want to investigate adding a lift kit since the Lance sits lower to the ground than Artic Fox or Nash.
More info on the Lance Owners Association forum (click) Do a search for lift kit.
Cheers! Jan & David

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Lynnmor
Explorer
Explorer
theoldwizard1 wrote:


goducks10 wrote:
Most of the industry doesn't offer shocks either.

And I applaud them for this !



Now that needs an "expert" explanation.

bobndot
Explorer II
Explorer II
I heard that NYC has a dirt road simulator . It's the city's roadway system. Anyone can use it to test out their RV, to see how it would hold up to extensive rutted dirt road travel.

theoldwizard1
Explorer
Explorer
goducks10 wrote:
No one in the industry offers a 3 year warranty for walls.

TRUE, and that is my point ! If they believe their product is far superior, they should back with a longer warranty.

goducks10 wrote:
Most of the industry doesn't offer shocks either.

And I applaud them for this !

goducks10 wrote:
Have you watched the videos on their site? They explain their construction Technics.

Yes, I have. Not enough technical detail for me. I want to see more of the welding on the walls and their lamination process.

Like what is "bonded aluminum construction framing". The box aluminum sections are great, but are they actually welded together or just "bonded" to the interior and exterior fiberglass panels with foam in between ?

Wood for joining blocks is also "industry standard" and they actually do not show a "dovetail" joint.

5/8" plywood flooring is good, but I would like to see some waterproofing on the bottom. I would hope they use plywood with at least exterior (water resistant) glue. Waterproof glue would be better.

One area that seems to fail often in the joint between the roof and the wall. Using a domed roof prevent "ponding", but they have done nothing unique at the seam.

Also, boat building quality "marine grade plywood" (as used in their roof) has no plugs on either face (plugs visible in their video) and no voids in any inner cores as well as true "boil proof" adhesive.

Huntindog
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Explorer
My TT is 34'. It has been down some jeep trails more than it should have. Fortunantly it survived without rolling over. Not something I recommend.
A normal trip for us will entail quite a few miles of dirt roads of varying difficulty.
My TT has held up well. My Lippert frame is very stout, and is the best frame I have had in any of my TTs... I believe that is because Sabre specified a heavy duty frame, and Lippert delivered.
Occasionally I will drop a quad off the rack to check out a side road before committing to towing the rig in there.
One does have to check the unit over often for loose screws often. I use loctite on every loose one I find, that keeps it from loosening up again.
I figure if I keep it long enough, I will eventually get them all.
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TexasChaps
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profdant139 wrote:
A 30 footer on a two track trail? You have a lot more courage than I do -- it can be really hard to find a good place to turn around, even with my little trailer. (The box itself is just under 12 feet long, or should I say 12 feet short?)

But many trailers can be towed on bad roads. Just take it really slow -- bad impacts can tweak the frame. Use tough components when you flip the axle. Lock the drawers and cabinets. Watch those overhanging branches, too.

yeh.. why not ?

we have the outdoors rv 24rks timber ridge and it's made for off road..
excellent for all weather, total length is just over 28 ft
can't turn round ? no problem.. just reverse out !!..
having no turn round really does sharpen one's reversing skills..
don't ask me how I know.. :E

goducks10
Explorer
Explorer
theoldwizard1 wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
All you need to know about off road TT's.
http://outdoorsrvmfg.com/


Using 2" rigid foam insulation is a good start. I would still want more details on some of their construction techniques before laying down the extra money for their product.

Their product would be more believable if it had a 3 year warranty for roof, walls, floors, skylights, windows, doors as all mating/sealing as well as the chassis.


No one in the industry offers a 3 year warranty for walls. Almost all roofs have a 12 year warranty.
ORV's warranty's pretty much inline with the rest of the industry. But the rest of the industry doesn't use USA made steel to build their own frames. Most of the industry doesn't offer shocks either.
2 years for walls and 3 years for frames is better than the industry standard warranty.
Have you watched the videos on their site? They explain their construction Technics.

myredracer
Explorer II
Explorer II
The frame and suspension will probably be the most important thing. Not many TT manufacturers have frames that are good for hard usage. Northwood TTs have the best frames and are independently tested & certified, heavy duty "off-road" and built in-house. Northwood is the parent company to several brands - Arctic Fox, Nash & Outdoors RV. Besides the frame, they are built better overall and have many good features.

The only other frame that *might* be acceptable for harder use is the BAL Ultra Frame. Not many brands use it. It is used by Lance, Jayco and I think 2-3 others. Avoid the frame built by Li**ert.

If we were to ever get a new TT, we'd be looking at a Northwood product. OutdoorsRV used to have a great brochure that listed many of the features but I can't seem to find it now.

theoldwizard1
Explorer
Explorer
goducks10 wrote:
All you need to know about off road TT's.
http://outdoorsrvmfg.com/


Using 2" rigid foam insulation is a good start. I would still want more details on some of their construction techniques before laying down the extra money for their product.

Their product would be more believable if it had a 3 year warranty for roof, walls, floors, skylights, windows, doors as all mating/sealing as well as the chassis.

goducks10
Explorer
Explorer
All you need to know about off road TT's.
http://outdoorsrvmfg.com/