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What does short and long bed camper mean?

Jfresh
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Does that mean it does not slide all the way into a long bed truck or it hangs farther off the back of a short box truck? Example "The 2014 Wolf Creek 840 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper made for short or long bed trucks." Source: Truck Camper Magazine
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wnjj
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bobndot wrote:
deltabravo wrote:
Super_Dave wrote:
A short bed camper does hang farther off the back of a long bed truck due to the storage cabinets typically found on a short bed model.


A shortbed camper shouldn't be put on a long bed truck because the center of gravity will most likely be behind the rear axle.
It would look goofy as heck too, siting so far back on the truck.


Isn't the added bed length between the axle and the trucks cab ?
The SB camper should sit in the same place in a LB. The COG remains in the same place, in front of the axle.

If you google pics of SB campers on LB trucks, you can see where it sits. The open space that is now between the cab and the camper can be used for storage or build a custom box .

here is previous info on SB/LB
http://forums.woodalls.com/Index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/27471882/gotomsg/27475612.cfm


Correct. A short bed model on a long bed truck will have the same COG relative to the rear axle assuming it is located due to the rear overhang storage and cannot slide further forward in the long bed.

Inversely, a long bed model on a short bed will have its COG 18" further rearward (relative to the rear axle) than on a long bed because both are located by the front of the box.

The funny thing is many manufacturers take a long bed model with whatever COG it has and add more weight to the rear as storage and declare it a short bed model. Clearly there are no absolutes with COG "design."

bobndot
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deltabravo wrote:
Super_Dave wrote:
A short bed camper does hang farther off the back of a long bed truck due to the storage cabinets typically found on a short bed model.


A shortbed camper shouldn't be put on a long bed truck because the center of gravity will most likely be behind the rear axle.
It would look goofy as heck too, siting so far back on the truck.


Isn't the added bed length between the axle and the trucks cab ?
The SB camper should sit in the same place in a LB. The COG remains in the same place, in front of the axle.

If you google pics of SB campers on LB trucks, you can see where it sits. The open space that is now between the cab and the camper can be used for storage or build a custom box .

here is previous info on SB/LB
http://forums.woodalls.com/Index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/27471882/gotomsg/27475612.cfm

deltabravo
Nomad
Nomad
MORSNOW wrote:
... A longbed WC camper just deletes these compartments so the truck box can fit all the way to the rear wall. The camper interior is the same on both models.


Another example of twins is the Arctic Fox 811
They make most of them as shortbed models, and a few long bed models.
Same scenario - side skirts are shorter, and you lose the right rear "deep" storage compartment/gen enclosure on the long bed version. Long bed still has a compartment there, but it's only 4-5" deep. I can't fit much in there in my long bed 811
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wintersun
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The manufacturers build their campers so that whether it is a long bed model on a long bed or a short bed model on a standard truck the center of gravity for the camper will sit directly over the rear axles of the truck.

You could put a short bed camper on a long bed truck if you wanted to use the front 18 inches for storage or an auxiliary fuel tank or other purpose.

Generally speaking the long bed truck campers provide more storage which is at a premium with truck campers. The long bed trucks often can be equipped with a larger main fuel tank to extend driving range.

Downside with the long bed is the greater turning radius and reduced maneuverability but in most situations it is a minor nuisance rather than a show stopper.

deltabravo
Nomad
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Super_Dave wrote:
A short bed camper does hang farther off the back of a long bed truck due to the storage cabinets typically found on a short bed model.


A shortbed camper shouldn't be put on a long bed truck because the center of gravity will most likely be behind the rear axle.
It would look goofy as heck too, siting so far back on the truck.
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2018 Arctic Fox 992 with an Onan 2500i "quiet" model generator

MORSNOW
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Jfresh wrote:
Does that mean it does not slide all the way into a long bed truck or it hangs farther off the back of a short box truck? Example "The 2014 Wolf Creek 840 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper made for short or long bed trucks." Source: Truck Camper Magazine


A shortbed WC camper (6'6" bed) is the same length as a longbed camper (8'), it just has a 1-1/2' overhang that has additional storage and a generator compartment.

Here is a picture of my shortbed WC, you can see the compartment doors on both sides. A longbed WC camper just deletes these compartments so the truck box can fit all the way to the rear wall. The camper interior is the same on both models.

2014 Wolf Creek 850SB
2012 GMC Sierra SLT 2500HD 7,220# Truck/10,400# Camper Fully Loaded

Super_Dave
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A short bed camper does hang farther off the back of a long bed truck due to the storage cabinets typically found on a short bed model. A long bed model will fit on either truck model without a gap between the cab and the camper.
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805gregg
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Long bed trucks are 8' short bed are 6.5' campers are made for a certain bed length
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donn0128
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Insert "suitable for" into the info and you will gave your answer.