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2019 Trip to the Southwest - Help/Guidance please

Ryanjb01
Explorer
Explorer
Hello Everyone,

On our quest to hit all 50 states within the next 3 years, the Southwest is next on our agenda.

More specifically, Southern California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico.

The planned locations so far include:
The Grand Canyon
Bryce and Zion
Las Vegas
Monument Valley
San Diego(Warm Pacific Waters). Or another location/town near the Pacific Ocean.
Roswell NM

To start, I am looking for campground recommendations for the above mentioned locations. Full Hook-Up sites are a must and family/pet friendly. Eventually Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana will be added to the route.

Also like to know how many days are recommended to see each location. Our total trip, including start to finish is 5 full weeks. Many of our stops will simply be for an overnight stay, back on the road in the morning.

We are Coast to Coast Deluxe members, KOA, Good Sam and AAA.

Thanks for the help,

Ryan
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padredw
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Busskipper wrote:
s the Mission just to Touch all the States? Thinking I see the need to be more Specific, and Likely give this a lot of thought. Maybe using the Rockies that Run from Glacier NP to Taos, NM. Use the Mountains to provide a Comfortable Fun week with a week or ten days into the lowlands heat before returning to cool back off. Just a Suggestion.


A suggestion with which I concur! Maybe you have already crossed off these states on you "states visited" map, but if not . . .

MarkTwain
Explorer
Explorer
IMHO, I would skip southern calif. Because of congeston and traffic. Nightmare for RVers??????

RVcrazy
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Explorer
Moab area with Canyonlands & Arches National Parks should be added to your list, to go with Zion & Bryce. We were plenty warm in APRIL. The HOT weather warnings are real. Do your dog a favor & leave it home...

Busskipper
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Explorer
Ryanjb01 wrote:
Hello Everyone,

On our quest to hit all 50 states within the next 3 years, the Southwest is next on our agenda.

More specifically, Southern California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico.

The planned locations so far include:
The Grand Canyon
Bryce and Zion
Las Vegas
Monument Valley
San Diego(Warm Pacific Waters). Or another location/town near the Pacific Ocean.
Roswell NM

To start, I am looking for campground recommendations for the above mentioned locations. Full Hook-Up sites are a must and family/pet friendly. Eventually Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana will be added to the route.

Also like to know how many days are recommended to see each location. Our total trip, including start to finish is 5 full weeks. Many of our stops will simply be for an overnight stay, back on the road in the morning.

We are Coast to Coast Deluxe members, KOA, Good Sam and AAA.

Thanks for the help,

Ryan


Not going to be of much Help, as IMHO if you are from the NorthEast and I think you should save the South for Small pieces of each trip to the various sections of the Rockies.

Below are a couple good sites to use as references for your trip;

Look Here for some good info with a family that has done it - Then Here for some great Photos of the places you might want to visit.

An honest view of you Mission is it is Ambitious but doable - BUT - Big But Here - start out with the Really Good Stuff First! - Too many people start with the Hard the Hot first thinking that you need to divide the country into these neat easy sections. Really will not work like that, JMHO.

You being from Syracuse might be smart to start with some Mountains and cooler elevations first, then, possibly mix in a Little Southwest Heat. Everyone thinks they Know the Southwest Heat, but it is Really HOT, NO Really HOT, so a week of it is usually doable but you need to Cool Off, Before and After, Elevatio will help - Water will Help, but you need to be aware that it is HOT.

Next - Leave Cali for Last - Crowded - Traffic - did I mention Crowded with Traffic - As was mentioned WetSuit Cold all year round, want warm ocean Water go to Florida Keys. As great as the sights are in Cali they are just Too Crowded in the Summer.

Is the Mission just to Touch all the States? Thinking I see the need to be more Specific, and Likely give this a lot of thought. Maybe using the Rockies that Run from Glacier NP to Taos, NM. Use the Mountains to provide a Comfortable Fun week with a week or ten days into the lowlands heat before returning to cool back off. Just a Suggestion.

Learn about the States, Visit the States OR to have an Educational Vacation?

CampGrounds should be located IN the National Parks and State Parks that you visit - You will need to Learn to Boondock for a few days on Occasion. The PET will need to be Boarded - seriously - Pets Will/Does not work well in National Parks.

With a five Week trip - you will lose two weeks just Coming and Going - so the Plan needs to be detailed - I suggest you be much more Specific in the Locations you want to Visit - Then get a Wal*Mart Map Book and a colored marker to try to lay out the drive. Then Bing or Google the route to get a real feel for it in driving time - You will average much less than 50 MPH over the trip, no matter what the Map App says.

Think about the Classic Yellowstone/Tetons trip First - with BadLands and Mt Rushmore going out then South into a little of Utah - Flaming Gorge - Dino NM - Colorado NM - Moab - Arches - Canyonlands - maybe Maroon Bells and Marble, so you can meet Colorado - followed by an exit out on Both Sides of I-70 before heading Home. That will eat everybit of 5 Weeks.

Hope this is of some help, will follow as you get more specific.

Best of Luck,
Busskipper
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garyemunson
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Explorer
Most fun way to experience the Grand Canyon is to stay at the Grand Canyon Railway park In Williams and take the train to the Canyon. Can be tough to get reservations lined up. Best to do it now. 2 nights, 3 days, a good intro to the Canyon. You will want to go back again to see more. Williams is a fun tourist trap town that will amuse you for a day. Walking distance from the Railway park. Heading West from Williams, the old RT 66 alignment is a fun ride that takes you past Grand Canyon Caverns, a step back in time to the 50's. Very worth an overnight stop at their RV park. DO NOT take Rt. 66 West from Kingman AZ with any type of RV. That route has a horrible downgrade better suited for Porsche driving. MANY lives lost on that stretch of road over the decades. NO ONE is that good of a driver that they should risk their families lives on it. That road leads to Oatman, a fun little town to see with burros wandering the streets BUT access from the East side is very dangerous. To see it, approach from the West side (and go back that way). In NV/CA highway 395 is a beautiful ride that takes you past Bodie, a real ghost town worth a visit, Bishop CA which has Schatt's bakery and cafe, a delicious must stop with an RV park behind it, and Manzanar, the site of the WWII internment camp for the Japanese citizens. A worthwhile thing to show your kids. The warning people are giving you about the heat are not to be taken lightly, BUT using common sense makes it doable. If you have kids that wander off, buy leashes. Carry plenty of water, use hats. DO NOT, however decide to include Death Valley in your itinerary. Dangerously hot there in the summer. People do die there from the heat.

doxiemom11
Explorer II
Explorer II
We just finished spending our first summer in the southwest. We were actually i New Mexico at an elevation between 4 and 5,00 feet. The month of June and July were over 100 most days. The sun is HOT and burns a hole thru you in minutes. There is very little shade to be had. Our dog couldn't go for any walks except early morning or after 8pm at night. The sand or stones were so hot they would burn her feet. We cannot imagine what it was like at lower elevation and we will never be in this area for a summer again.

Desert_Captain
Explorer III
Explorer III
If you think you can just ignore the heat of the Southwest summers you are in for a very rude surprise and probably a badly ruined trip. Spring and fall are awesome but anywhere under 4,000’ from late May through mid September at the locations you listed is going to be seriously miserable more than not.

For the record I live in Tucson and travel extensively throughout the southwest. You need to be able to get to the higher elevations... June in Zion will be triple digit but up the road at Bryce Canyon fairly doable as just one example. We spend the summers at 7,000’ or higher whenever possible.

Add in the huge crowds most of the destinations you listed will have all summer(huge influx of European tourists plus the kids are all out of school) and the problem becomes clear. Even last April the ladies were waiting 45 minutes to use the ports potties at Arches Nation Park, I kid you not. Parking lots were all full and it took nearly an hour to just get into the park from the highway st 9 AM. Trust me summers are far worse. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but better to read it here than to have your dream trip blow up.

I sincerely suggest you consider more research and hopefully can find a way to reschedule. Good luck.

Nutinelse2do
Explorer
Explorer
If you have never experienced the true heat of Az, New Mexico, and Nevada Summers, I highly recommend against it. Dogs are not allowed on most trails in National Parks, and cannot be left alone in a car during that type of heat.

It will most likely be a miserable experience for everyone involved. If you must go, you might consider leaving your pets at home, with a house sitter. The kids will probably be ok, but the Summer is when most tourists to those areas end up getting heat stroke, or sick/ hospitalized.

The kind of heat you are going to experience is not something to be taken lightly.

Maybe consider heading North instead. JMO
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MarkTwain
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KOA RV park rates in Calif. and Oregon are outrageously expensive:(:(:( In Oregon at a KOA park I was told that the rate was $75 per night, I told the lady that I didn't want to BUY the dam RV site, only RENT it!!!!!!!

Janss
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Read about National Park passes here:
America The Beautiful
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Dave5143
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You may wish to consider using the Good Sam trip planning tool to help you flesh out the details of your trip. It's actually quite useful in recommending RV parks along the way.
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MarkTwain
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Just a really admitted bias, I would not include Texas in my RV adventures. Did Texas once and got caught in one of their nortorious Hail storms:(:( $15K damage to my truck and trailer:(:(

tragusa3
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I always encouraged people to "make due" with the heat if summer was the only time they could go. We did on our first trip and seemed to fare well. However, as age creeps up on us and our tolerance for being uncomfortable changes, we have vowed to never go SW again in the summer.

I had spent hours and hours chronicling our SW trips on here and now they seem to have disappeared? Turned me off a bit from investing that much time on here. I do have videos of it on our YouTube channel. You may find them of some use. See signature.
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Ryanjb01
Explorer
Explorer
MarkTwain wrote:
Great Adventure trip!
Some general considerations:
Generally plan your trips based on the weather of each region you want to visit i.e. South West states in the summer months are hot as hell and doable if you tolerate heat well. I only go to Arizona in the winters. I only go to the state of Maine and states near by in the summer/spring. Check various states to visit based on time of year they have hurricanes and tornados. Be aware the finding RV RV parks on the west coast, Calif. ,Oregon and Washington State are difficult to get and almost all need about reservations 6 months or more. IMHO, Making reservations for RV trips is my choice. You have everything to win and nothing to lose! Reservations do not restrict your freedom to changes your plans. Just call and cancel.
Generaly I use the Good Sam RV Parks application to help me locate RV Parks that can meet my RV needs. RVer's on the RV. Net forum will also give you good suggestions.


Great advice. Unfortunately, we are only able to travel in the summer months. We will make due with the heat. Thanks,
2018 GMC 3500 Denali Crew Cab Dually Duramax/Allison 🙂
2015 Cedar Creek Silverback 35QB4
Ryan, Marsha, Alyssa and Emily

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work" ~ Thomas Edison

MarkTwain
Explorer
Explorer
Great Adventure trip!
Some general considerations:
Generally plan your trips based on the weather of each region you want to visit i.e. South West states in the summer months are hot as hell and doable if you tolerate heat well. I only go to Arizona in the winters. I only go to the state of Maine and states near by in the summer/spring. Check various states to visit based on time of year they have hurricanes and tornados. Be aware the finding RV RV parks on the west coast, Calif. ,Oregon and Washington State are difficult to get and almost all need about reservations 6 months or more. IMHO, Making reservations for RV trips is my choice. You have everything to win and nothing to lose! Reservations do not restrict your freedom to changes your plans. Just call and cancel.
Generaly I use the Good Sam RV Parks application to help me locate RV Parks that can meet my RV needs. RVer's on the RV. Net forum will also give you good suggestions.