Alliance 5th Wheels

[Bob_Vaughn]

Saw this new brand at the Tampa RV Super show........Damm what an improvement over the major name brands....

[ReneeG]

JKJavelin wrote:

Haven't heard of any. Mine was built 5 years ago last month and is still very white.

Thank you.

[JKJavelin]

Haven't heard of any. Mine was built 5 years ago last month and is still very white.

[ReneeG]

Any issues with yellowing as other plastics? Our stove vent is yellowing as is our WeBoost antenna.

[JKJavelin]

ReneeG wrote:
Regarding your comment on the PVC roofing for this FW - I've done a lot of research on PVC roofs and it's good. We are about to replace our rubber roof and are seriously looking at a PVC for all the benefits. Not to mention it will be lighter in weight.

Open Range has been using PVC since the beginning in 2009. I've never heard of any issues with it.
JK

[ReneeG]

Regarding your comment on the PVC roofing for this FW - I've done a lot of research on PVC roofs and it's good. We are about to replace our rubber roof and are seriously looking at a PVC for all the benefits. Not to mention it will be lighter in weight.

[dlleno]

Theres a lot of coolaid re the three ACs and no ducting, before we even know how even the cooling is with three units running.

[dlleno]

And there is a seat in the shower. That's what makes them roomy: it folds up.

[ReneeG]

Winged One wrote:


What???!!! Even with their "40" R value roof!!

Want a laugh, here is even a dealer making fun of manufacturers claims.
Exposing False R values

Full disclosure, we are in the process of selling our 11 Brookstone (that worked very well with one A/C) to buy a 17 Solitude. But eyes wide open.

Why are you selling your Brookstone? I thought those were luxury, well built units.

[dlleno]

My impression from reading here and elsewhere is that the coolaid is just as strong on the anti alliance side as it is on the pro alliance side. Their marketing is strong to be sure and maybe thats what either sets expectations higher than the price, or attracts certain buyers interested in the differentiating details such as they are.

Three smaller ACs no ducting. Are folks reporting uneven cooling? To me its important to run two of them on 30A but we have no intentions of full timing and expect to use 30A campsites. The 310 is on my short list cause DW likes it and because the shower is large enough for my big frame. I guess i don't have a strong cool aid reaction either way cause they appear to be in line with the price point and I'm not expecting mobile suites quality for a grand design price.

But i would like to see more detail re where these guys fall short for the price point or if the marketing has just set expectations too high and folks are expecting to see a modernized hitchkiker.

[ACZL]

I'm on the Alliance Facebook thing and many are buying them and it seems they are having quite a bit of QC issues which Alliance is taking care of, but given all the hype, there shouldn't be any to begin with. I do like some of the ideas they have, haven't seen 1 in person yet and not a floorpan that triggers my finger.

We recently had our DD and 3mo old grandson w/ us for a week in 5er in sig and it's surprising as to how fast a 41' RV becomes cramped. Got the DW and I to thinking perhaps about a toy hauler. Here again, although Alliance has 3 TH plans, nothing appealing. Do like their idea on the Azdel walls and different material for ramp door (more waterproof??). One thing that kinda stinks is that Alliance doesn't offer slide toppers upon manufacture. Instead it's a dealer install item.

[pcm1959]

lcseds wrote:
My wife and I drove four hours round trip to look at an Alliance. Wish I had my gas money back....
Nothing special at all. As mentioned, the AC is not ducted. Look at some pics on line. Same AC in the living area as I have in my cheap TT. And if you look at them in person you will find more WTH items.

The kool-aid is strong with this brand. But dig a little, and it's the same old s***.

I totally agree. I'd say they same about Vanleigh.

[lcseds]

My wife and I drove four hours round trip to look at an Alliance. Wish I had my gas money back....
Nothing special at all. As mentioned, the AC is not ducted. Look at some pics on line. Same AC in the living area as I have in my cheap TT. And if you look at them in person you will find more WTH items.

The kool-aid is strong with this brand. But dig a little, and it's the same old s***.

[dlleno]

ACZL wrote:
This new RV has caught my attention, but like others, want to see how they are after new owners get them. I like their ideas and concepts and for right now seem to listen to people and make changes based on suggestions. We all want to see now what they are going to offer in terms of floor-plans and all but they (Alliance) are keeping their cards close to their chests. As this year goes forward, more models will be released. Big question tho is, are they going to stick to their guns and really be 100% customer focused, take time to manufacture RV's in a quality fashion and not rush them out the door or not? By the time the Hershey show is here, they should have more floorpans to see. Also, folks that have bought them already should as well be offering their take on them..

This is a good observation that is holding thus far imho. They have assembled an interesting collection of big wiggs from other companies (including GD) but what intrigues me is their presumed ability to compete at this price point. So far my observation is that they are no nu-wa (hitchiker) by any means, with no apparent intentions thereunto, either. But they have made the splash and turned some heads so now its time to deliver. Can they reliably laminate to Azdel? Are the seals around the roof perimeter any better than others? Is PVC roof better for the customer or better for the mfg? What industry contribution or claim to fame are they trying to achieve? I hope its more than color coded wires and folding shower seats

Im trying to discern what they are really selling. If its just coach features identified via crowd sourcing then they won't be leaders very long. If its customer engagement then its a me-too grand design company.

But if its a better trailer then they will have to earn that reputation over time, with more than just de-rating gvw below the sum of axle rating and pin weight.

[goducks10]

Seems rather ironic or sad that you go to a rally and cheer the very same people that built your RV that you also need to have fixed by rally technicians.