Can I safely tow a Fuel 362 with 2020 2500HD 6.6

[sc4r3d]

I am considering upgrading to a 5th wheel Fuel 362, but I have a feeling I will be cutting it too close with a 2020 Chevy 2500HD 6.6 Diesel. Is anyone in here pulling one with a vehicle with same towing capacity?

If not, I think the Fuel 352 may be the better option as dry its closer to 12K vs 14K.

Toys = 1500 pounds

Thanks in advance!

[Y-Guy]

sc4r3d I do want to add please don't bank on the tongue weight going down when you add toys in the back. Many owners that have weighed their Toy Haulers will report that they tongue weight went up. On our Raptor we loaded our two Polaris Sportsman at the very back, it did not reduce the tongue weight at all, it went up some but not much.

[Grit_dog]

The real question is, if you’re asking these types of questions, how are you skills/ quals to tow a 43’ semi trailer with a marginal truck or even a dually?
Seems like a big task if you’re new to this.

[Grit_dog]

Folks make too much of this.
Not sure what else a scale will tell you. Your truck has 3000-3500 on the rear axle before camper. Camper adds 3600lbs per specs. Your wheels are rated around 3500 generally for Oe wheels. Tires are what they are but 3500-4000lb tires are the norm. Axle good for 10k
As long as you’re good with 3500-4000lbs of pin weight, let er rip.
Might be a bit less with the toys loaded.
I’d do it. You’ll need more springs, or bags and some good tars and Oe wheels slightly overloaded
Yes you’ll be over rated payload, but you should already know that. Beyond that , if you don’t understand vehicles, it’s hard to explain.

[lincster]

Only way to know is take your truck to a scale and weigh it, then do the math.

Say truck weighs 8000lbs.
GCWR of truck is 20000. 20000-8000=12000lbs. This is the total amount of weight you can tow and stay within the trucks GCWR.
GVWR of truck is 9000. 9000-8000=1000lbs. This is the total amount of weight the truck can carry, I.E. passengers, pin weight etc.

I don't know your weights or your ratings so you have to plug in your own numbers.

If you don't care about tow ratings, that truck will 100% tow that trailer.

I moved up to a F350 Dually back in 2006 to avoid any of these issues. I have been able to hook up to any 5th wheel toy hauler I have wanted to since then and not worry.

[valhalla360]

sc4r3d wrote:
Sorry for the lack of info, this is all new to me. It is difficlut to find info on Chevy's site, they like to keep everything secret, I have seen at least 3 different weights it can tow, etc.

option 1
Duramax® 6.6L turbo-diesel V8 tow 18,500 lbs. 5th wheel 18,510 lbs.
option 2
The Silverado 2500HD diesel engine allows for a max towing capacity of an astounding 15,400 pounds on properly equipped configurations.

Option 3 from their site.. so frustrating
2020 SILVERADO 2500 HD MAX AVAIL TRAILERING 18,500 lbs.†
MAX AVAIL TORQUE 910 lb.-ft.†

2020 Chevy 2500 HD LTZ 3.42 rear axle ratio
Crew Cab
6.6l Diesel
STANDARD BED
4x4


Fuel 362
GVWR 17,000 lbs
DRY WEIGHT 14,202 lbs
HITCH WEIGHT 3,640 lbs
CARGO CAPACITY 2750

Option 2

Fuel 352
GVWR 17,000 lbs
DRY WEIGHT 12,815 lbs
HITCH WEIGHT 3,060 lbs
CARGO CAPACITY 4137

5th wheels are almost always limited by the truck payload not the tow rating.

At 17k, a 25% pin weight pushes you up around 4000lb in the truck. Add in 200lb for the hitch plus passengers plus anything else you load in or bolt onto the truck (don't forget running boards and such). You could easily be over 4500-5000lb loaded onto the truck when ready to go.

Keep in mind with toy haulers, they start with higher pin weight when empty. When you put the toys in the back it reduces the pin weight and they don't want to leave the pin too light when loaded...so loading the trailer lightly doesn't necessarily help the trucks payload limit.

You can find your trucks actual payload limit by looking at the door jamb but I would want a diesel dually for either of those trailers. You might find a single rear wheel 1 ton that works but you will be pushing it to the limits and you won't be able to carry much of anything in the truck without worrying about being over the limits.

[JIMNLIN]

No doubt the 2500 won't have any problems pulling a 17000 lb trailer as it has the same 6.6 Dmax/Allison as the 3500 trucks.
A 2500 truck problems like some are saying is those smaller 6600 rawr. Rawr (rear axle weight rating) is the lessor of the rear spring pack.....tires....wheels.
You have the truck so drop by a set of CAT scales weigh your trucks separate front and rear axle. Subtract rear axle scale weight from 6600 and this gives you how much load (pin weight/hitch/other gear in the bed) the truck can safely carry. ?Some folks upgrade their 3/4 or one ton srw trucks wheels/tires and rear suspension to carry the load.

?Looking at GM ordering guide gm ordering guide gives all the weight and tow specs for each GM truck configuration. It also has a weights calculator which gives the trucks actual gross weight and front and rear axle payloads for a specific configured truck which includes std and optional equipment. This is a holy bible if you will for GM LDT trucks specs.

Weigh your trucks axles.

[Old-Biscuit]

Truck Rear Axle Rating...RAWR is what will be carrying the WET pin

17K GVWR at 22% = 3740#

6600 RAWR minus wet pin= 2860#
Pretty sure the truck rear axle will weigh more then 3000# BEFORE adding hitch/wet pin

Back to that 14,000 GVWR 5th wheel in order to be able to carry WET Pin weight plus hitch

[nayther]

you're reciting numbers from their website. You need to look at the actual capacities of the truck you have. It should be in the glove box on on the door jamb

[sc4r3d]

Sorry for the lack of info, this is all new to me. It is difficlut to find info on Chevy's site, they like to keep everything secret, I have seen at least 3 different weights it can tow, etc.

option 1
Duramax® 6.6L turbo-diesel V8 tow 18,500 lbs. 5th wheel 18,510 lbs.
option 2
The Silverado 2500HD diesel engine allows for a max towing capacity of an astounding 15,400 pounds on properly equipped configurations.

Option 3 from their site.. so frustrating
2020 SILVERADO 2500 HD MAX AVAIL TRAILERING 18,500 lbs.†
MAX AVAIL TORQUE 910 lb.-ft.†

2020 Chevy 2500 HD LTZ 3.42 rear axle ratio
Crew Cab
6.6l Diesel
STANDARD BED
4x4


Fuel 362
GVWR 17,000 lbs
DRY WEIGHT 14,202 lbs
HITCH WEIGHT 3,640 lbs
CARGO CAPACITY 2750

Option 2

Fuel 352
GVWR 17,000 lbs
DRY WEIGHT 12,815 lbs
HITCH WEIGHT 3,060 lbs
CARGO CAPACITY 4137

[MFL]

IdaD wrote:

MFL wrote:
The latest GM 2500 HD diesel can have 11,300 GVWR and 6,600 RAWR, so is a bit of a game changer in that class.

Not seeing actual truck figures, or trailer GVWRs, I am thinking a dry weight of 12K will be likely limit of truck capability.

Jerry

It's really only a game changer on paper. That ballpark of RAWR has been common on 3/4 ton trucks for years, it's just the payload that's been artificially hampered by the 10k GVWR. My assumption on the newer GM trucks is you can still order them with a 10k lb GVWR for all the reasons one might want that configuration.

Can't really answer OP's question without more info, though.

The game changer...YES, on paper, but many only understand "on paper". By raising the 2500 rating well past 10K GVWR gives a more realistic payload number, especially when diesel engine is involved. In any case, the OP is asking dry wt 12K, or dry wt 14K. Since we don't know the GVWR of either trailer, the lesser one will likely work best.

Jerry

[IdaD]

MFL wrote:
The latest GM 2500 HD diesel can have 11,300 GVWR and 6,600 RAWR, so is a bit of a game changer in that class.

Not seeing actual truck figures, or trailer GVWRs, I am thinking a dry weight of 12K will be likely limit of truck capability.

Jerry

It's really only a game changer on paper. That ballpark of RAWR has been common on 3/4 ton trucks for years, it's just the payload that's been artificially hampered by the 10k GVWR. My assumption on the newer GM trucks is you can still order them with a 10k lb GVWR for all the reasons one might want that configuration.

Can't really answer OP's question without more info, though.

[MFL]

The latest GM 2500 HD diesel can have 11,300 GVWR and 6,600 RAWR, so is a bit of a game changer in that class.

Not seeing actual truck figures, or trailer GVWRs, I am thinking a dry weight of 12K will be likely limit of truck capability.

Jerry

[Lwiddis]

"Pulling" isn't the first issue IMO....payload is. What is your truck's payload limit?

[Old-Biscuit]

Post the Trailer GVWRs
Figure 22% of GVWR for wet pin
Post your 2500s RAWR

Otherwise folks would have to internet search to find that info.

Your question...you need to post the details

2020 2500....guesstimate would be 14,000 GVWR MAX