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crash course in 5th wheel hitches?

JeffPritchard
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I've done the whole Truck Camper thing (twice), and the Class A thing.

Now I'm getting ready to try a 5th wheel next. I'm just starting to come to terms with how much I DONT know yet about 5th wheel RV's.

I'm planning to downsize to a decked out F-150 with 6.5 foot bed. I know this places strict constraints on the size of the camper I pick out. I'm fine with that. The smallest 5'er is a castle next to what I'm used to with a TC.

One part of 5th wheeling that I am particularly ignorant about is the various types of hitches and all the names of them and their parts.

I need to get edumacated in that area fast. I am usually good at googling, but this is one of those situations where I don't know enough to ask google the right questions.

Can some of you recommend some extensive sources of explanation from the ground up on the types of hitches and their pros and cons?

Also, can somebody either explain or point me to explanation about how a 5th wheel hitch is installed in the bed of pickup? Does it basically trash the bed, or would it be realistic to install one in a leased truck and then remove it at lease end?

Is there a way to install it such that it can easily be put in and out for other truck uses where it would be in the way? (I have a bobcat, so can easily lift it in and out...but how are they attached?)
Jeff Pritchard in Greensboro
2008 Lance 1191 - 2005 Ford F-350 4X4 Diesel (paid for)
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Sport45
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Explorer II
Much. Kind of an action shot.

Now all you need is another hitch. After all, variety is the spice of life. ๐Ÿ™‚

And shouldn't that flag be flying the other way on the right side of the truck? Tacky.
โ€™19 F350 SRW CCLB PSD Fx4
'00 F250, CC SWB 4x2, V-10 3.73LS. (sold)
'83 F100 SWB 4x2, 302 AOD 3.55. (parked)
'05 GMC Envoy 4x2 4.2 3.73L.
'12 Edge 2.0 Ecoboost
'15 Cherokee Trailhawk

Cummins12V98
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Better?

2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

cummins2014
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Explorer
crcr wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
up2nogood wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Me like this one.





Yes we know !!!!!!


Thought you needed a reminder.:B


Give it a rest. Everyone here will like you for it.



Thats doubtful , I think its way beyond that now.

FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
Sport45 wrote:
crcr wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
up2nogood wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Me like this one.





Yes we know !!!!!!


Thought you needed a reminder.:B


Give it a rest. Everyone here will like you for it.


At least take a new picture. Even if she once turned you on, the same old pinup loses its charm after a while... ๐Ÿ™‚


LMAO....
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Sport45
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Explorer II
crcr wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
up2nogood wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Me like this one.





Yes we know !!!!!!


Thought you needed a reminder.:B


Give it a rest. Everyone here will like you for it.


At least take a new picture. Even if she once turned you on, the same old pinup loses its charm after a while... ๐Ÿ™‚
โ€™19 F350 SRW CCLB PSD Fx4
'00 F250, CC SWB 4x2, V-10 3.73LS. (sold)
'83 F100 SWB 4x2, 302 AOD 3.55. (parked)
'05 GMC Envoy 4x2 4.2 3.73L.
'12 Edge 2.0 Ecoboost
'15 Cherokee Trailhawk

crcr
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Explorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
up2nogood wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Me like this one.





Yes we know !!!!!!


Thought you needed a reminder.:B


Give it a rest. Everyone here will like you for it.

JIMNLIN
Explorer
Explorer
Ain't new grand daughters neat !! Congrats.
"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
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Cummins12V98
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up2nogood wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Me like this one.





Yes we know !!!!!!


Thought you needed a reminder.:B
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Learjet
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
Me like this one.




I've seen that picture so often on here that, I still see it at night when I close my eyes.

:W I do have my eyes on the 18k B&W Patriot hitch...still not 100% happy with my current hitch.
2017 Ram Big Horn, DRW Long Box, 4x4, Cummins, Aisin, 3.73
2022 Jayco Pinnacle 32RLTS, Onan 5500, Disc Brakes, 17.5" tires
B&W Ram Companion

shepstone
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Me Again wrote:
shepstone wrote:
I have towed both TT & Fifth with the same 1/2 ton, the fiver even though it weighed over 2000 lb more was way more stable and felt much safer than the TT.


There are those that will argue that with the correct high end hitch, the bumper pull can be as stable as a 5th wheel.

Chris

Been there and done that c/w sway controller. I don't doubt that with more time and money you could make it work, but is it worth it? Not to me. I love the simplicity of being able to look out my back window and seeing the B&W (or insert your hitch of choice) engage.
2017 F350 Ruby Red Super Cab Dually 6.7 3.55 gears. B&W Companion 25K. BackRack. Gatorback mud guards. AUX65FCBRG aux tank. 2021 GD 380fl
2010 GMC Savanna 3500 extended 6.0

csamayfield55x
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Explorer
Lyle, congratulations!!!

I also agree, until you spend time behind a 5er you don't know stability on the road. You can spend lots of money trying to make it that good but it never is

Chris
2008 Dodge Ram 3500 6.7L Cummins Quad cab
B&W 20K turnover ball, Proline custom flatbed
Tekonsha P3
2015 Open Rang Light 311FLR

laknox
Nomad
Nomad
JeffPritchard wrote:
JeffPritchard wrote:
MFL wrote:
Lyle is talking about a swivel wheel tote, on the back of FW, with a UTV on it.

Jerry


Ok, thanks.

But being behind the trailer axels...wouldn't that tend to lift the front of the trailer rather than push down harder on the pin?


Answering my own question here. Just re-read Lyle's post. "Just unloaded the front too much." Again, I thought opposite part of the rig from him. He meant it unloaded the front of the trailer (not front of truck).


Thanks for clarifying my post. Was at the hospital all afternoon yesterday, so didn't get a chance to log on. Got a new granddaughter! ๐Ÿ™‚

Lyle
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N-Trouble
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Explorer
Me Again wrote:
shepstone wrote:
I have towed both TT & Fifth with the same 1/2 ton, the fiver even though it weighed over 2000 lb more was way more stable and felt much safer than the TT.


There are those that will argue that with the correct high end hitch, the bumper pull can be as stable as a 5th wheel.

Chris


I use to believe that as well. THat is until I bought a 5er. Fact is many who try to argue this point have never towed a 5er.
2015 Attitude 28SAG w/slide
2012 GMC 2500HD SLT Duramax
B&W Turnover w/Andersen Ultimate 5er hitch

Me_Again
Explorer II
Explorer II
shepstone wrote:
I have towed both TT & Fifth with the same 1/2 ton, the fiver even though it weighed over 2000 lb more was way more stable and felt much safer than the TT.


There are those that will argue that with the correct high end hitch, the bumper pull can be as stable as a 5th wheel.

Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021