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Dual pane windows.....add weight? Reduced CCC?

ACZL
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How much weight do dual pane windows add to a 5er over single pane? Seems to me that if they add quite a bit of weight that reduces your CCC.
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richfaa
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We are long timers and stay in moderate temps year round look up the specs on your dual pane windows and do the math. Insulation is almost nil take a IR thermometer and shoot the outside the window temp then the inside. There is a slight noise reduction. Specifications do not lie.

Do some homework on RV dual pane windows before you purchase.
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jnharley
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I agree that they may be more important for fulltimers than those that only RV occasionally and in moderate weather. We have a very well insulated 5th wheel and never have any condensation on the windows because of the dual panes. There are those of us that think they have value and those that do not. That is what makes the world an interesting place.
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Us_out_West
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We ordered our rig with 'Dual Panes' and would certainly do it again.
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Bumpyroad
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Lantley wrote:
jnharley wrote:
It is not the energy saving that make dual pane windows valuable, it is the noise abatement and the absence of condensation on the inside of the windows. Single pane windows condensate badly in cool weather and one is always moping up the water and it could cause mold.


I agree and that is exactly why I'm not a fan of dual panes.
I'm not looking for noise abatement. The CG's I camp at are quiet enough for the most part. I don't have a condensation issue with my single panes. Add in there is no energy savings. What's the point?
To limit condensation and noise? Really!? Not for me.
I will add if I full timed I might give them more consideration because I may encounter more extreme temps. vs. the moderate temps. I experience now.
I also understand all rigs are not the same in terms of overall insulation. Climate also play and important factor as well.If I were in extreme Texas heat or extreme Canadian cold I may see things differently
Nevertheless I see minimal benefit for the cost as it pertains to my run of the millcamping style.



yep, a heavy drape will provide noise abatement as well as blocking the cold.
had dual pains on my second RV. didn't order them on my third.
and do a search for issues with them going bad.
bumpy

Lantley
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jnharley wrote:
It is not the energy saving that make dual pane windows valuable, it is the noise abatement and the absence of condensation on the inside of the windows. Single pane windows condensate badly in cool weather and one is always moping up the water and it could cause mold.


I agree and that is exactly why I'm not a fan of dual panes.
I'm not looking for noise abatement. The CG's I camp at are quiet enough for the most part. I don't have a condensation issue with my single panes. Add in there is no energy savings. What's the point?
To limit condensation and noise? Really!? Not for me.
I will add if I full timed I might give them more consideration because I may encounter more extreme temps. vs. the moderate temps. I experience now.
I also understand all rigs are not the same in terms of overall insulation. Climate also play and important factor as well.If I were in extreme Texas heat or extreme Canadian cold I may see things differently
Nevertheless I see minimal benefit for the cost as it pertains to my run of the millcamping style.
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jnharley
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It is not the energy saving that make dual pane windows valuable, it is the noise abatement and the absence of condensation on the inside of the windows. Single pane windows condensate badly in cool weather and one is always moping up the water and it could cause mold.
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PegLW
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We would never have another RV without dual pane windows! They are well worth both cost and weight.
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garyemunson
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My take on dual pane windows is that unlike your house, in an RV you are usually sleeping less than a foot away from the window and dual pane makes it much more comfortable in cold weather.

C_Schomer
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I was told that dual panes added about 300 lbs. to mine. Look for a mfgr. That builds more margin into the running gear. I have 3k CCC even after the dual panes, batteries, full water and LP tanks. I haven't compared but I think that's pretty good. Craig
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wilber1
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Dual pane windows are pretty much standard around here. Except for more basic 5er's, dealers don't stock units with single panes anymore. In the great north wet, wouldn't have anything but dual panes.
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Bumpyroad
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ACZL wrote:
How much weight do dual pane windows add to a 5er over single pane? Seems to me that if they add quite a bit of weight that reduces your CCC.



years back some mfrs. couldn't offer them in some of their RVs due to weight. so you are correct about dual pain windows but with an adequate frame under the RV there are other things to worry about with them.
bumpy

Njmurvin
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I bought mine used and it was equipped with them. I like them as much for noise suppression as insulation. The Arctic Fox is a tank anyway. What's another 300lbs or so?
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Lantley
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3 Oaks I have to agree if I'm looking for some sort of pay back you might as well get rid of the RV.
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B_O__Plenty
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Ivylog wrote:
O M G, if you are worrying about the weight of dual pain windows, the CCC is so small I would not want the unit to begin with.
I agree. If 300# of carrying capacity makes that much difference, I'm looking at the wrong trailer..

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