Pin weight

[MTPockets1]

How many know their actual pin weight. Serious 5vr's should. Most discussion regarding trucks are more about towing capacity, when it needs to be about pin weight which is the biggest part of cargo capacity. Many seem to use a percentage of GVWR and go with that number to make it fit their truck cargo capacity. I know my pin weight is 3300 lbs which is close to 23% of my GVWR. If I used a more common approach, I would be well under 3000 lbs. I've seen some use numbers as low as 15% to say their pin weight is 2000 lbs. or less. There is no way to know your pin weight unless you visit the scales and do the math. Do you know your pin weight?

[mayorna]

Truck full of fuel with me in it: Steer axle 5340, Drive axle 4180, Gross 9520.
Truck and trailer with wife and 4 long hair chihuahuas in the truck: Steer Axle 5460, Drive axle 8600, Trailer axle 15340, Gross 29400. Truck Max payload is 5700 and GVWR is 14500
GCWR 33000, Trailer GVWR is 20000.

[bpounds]

I have no idea what my pin weight is. I knew last week when I weighed it. But that was then, and this is, now. So I don't really know.

None of you do either, unless you're sitting on a scale reading the forum.

There really isn't any need to make such a big deal out of it.

[GON2SKI]

Really do not know yet…………but I want to get her weighted soon. It is much heavier than our '01 Cougar 281 EFS …..and barely felt that rig behind us…….I've been waiting till all my upgrades are completed.

[cdlaine]

I'm in at approx. 21%.... 2660 # at last CAT visit (loaded)...
Northwood had the dry hitch weight at 2300 # (on sticker)
so, probably pretty accurate. We do pay attention to
loading plan, and monitor what comes in and out.
(I don't haul water, but do run "level").


oops ! sorry ol' Bombero...does that mean I shouldn't have
posted ??? 😄


Charles

[ol_Bombero-JC]

MTPockets1 wrote:
How many know their actual pin weight. Serious 5vr's should. Most discussion regarding trucks are more about towing capacity, when it needs to be about pin weight which is the biggest part of cargo capacity. Many seem to use a percentage of GVWR and go with that number to make it fit their truck cargo capacity. I know my pin weight is 3300 lbs which is close to 23% of my GVWR. If I used a more common approach, I would be well under 3000 lbs. I've seen some use numbers as low as 15% to say their pin weight is 2000 lbs. or less. There is no way to know your pin weight unless you visit the scales and do the math.

Do you know your pin weight?

Nice "good points" post....but why?

Anyone that cares....knows.
Those that don't care - don't care..:R

Oh golly gee, better run (drive) to the scales.

Easy answer to your last = YES.

~

[Winged_One]

MTPockets1 wrote:
How many know their actual pin weight. Serious 5vr's should. Most discussion regarding trucks are more about towing capacity, when it needs to be about pin weight which is the biggest part of cargo capacity. Many seem to use a percentage of GVWR and go with that number to make it fit their truck cargo capacity. I know my pin weight is 3300 lbs which is close to 23% of my GVWR. If I used a more common approach, I would be well under 3000 lbs. I've seen some use numbers as low as 15% to say their pin weight is 2000 lbs. or less. There is no way to know your pin weight unless you visit the scales and do the math. Do you know your pin weight?

Yup, 3340 lbs or about 22.9% of total. Looks like we are very similar.

[hone_eagle]

Pin actual #4040 (brochure claims #2895 ),trailer #16,000.GWR #18,000.
can't remember the truck by axle ,but the total is #16,000.
We were camping near a small Mobile Suite group a few years ago and they brought a scale and every one was at least #500 over what the manufacturer claimed in the sales literature a few were #1000 over.
Eye opener? Oh ya , brochure weight , dry weight - absolutely useless.

[Old-Biscuit]

C-Bears wrote:
The easiest way to get your weights is to run across the scales while out traveling. All Flying J and Pilots have scales (or most anyway). Simply go in and pay your $10.00 and get your scale sheet.

Then wait until you are unhooked (camped) in an area where there is a scale. With your TV loaded pay another $10 and run it across the scale.

Now you have all your numbers on 2 scale sheets. Now sit down and fugure your pin weights and everything else. The next step for some will be shopping for a new dually!

Re-weigh same day only costs $1

Drop trailer in parking lot and swing back thru scales.

[C-Bears]

The easiest way to get your weights is to run across the scales while out traveling. All Flying J and Pilots have scales (or most anyway). Simply go in and pay your $10.00 and get your scale sheet.

Then wait until you are unhooked (camped) in an area where there is a scale. With your TV loaded pay another $10 and run it across the scale.

Now you have all your numbers on 2 scale sheets. Now sit down and fugure your pin weights and everything else. The next step for some will be shopping for a new dually!

[NC_Hauler]

Dave H M wrote:
:S Dang I thought I knew my pion weight but now I realize that I did not use a CAT scale. I thought the local grain elevator scale would be close enough.

Those things are everywhere here in central IL

Shouldn't be an issue as long as calibrations are done on a regular basis....I just know more about the CAT scales than any other...Guess it may be a regional thing?

[Me_Again]

Dave H M wrote:
:S Dang I thought I knew my pion weight but now I realize that I did not use a CAT scale. I thought the local grain elevator scale would be close enough.

Those things are everywhere here in central IL

Pint's a pound the world around!

Oregon is great, as they leave their scales on when unmanned! Don't forget to relax the drive train when weighing. Leaving auto tranny in gear with foot on brake can skew your weights. Chris

[Dave_H_M]

:S Dang I thought I knew my pion weight but now I realize that I did not use a CAT scale. I thought the local grain elevator scale would be close enough.

Those things are everywhere here in central IL

[NC_Hauler]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:
Weighed my whole combo 3/5/14. Full tank of fuel, full DEF tank, me, wife, two boxers, tool box a tad more loaded and 5er loaded almost as full as usual for a weeks stay...all tanks empty, cept black water probably had 10 gallons or so in it and 2 5# bags of ice to slosh around in the tank while driving from Asheville NC to Seviereville TN (trying to clean sensors)..

I digressed....

front axle was 5460# (rated @5800)
Drive axle was 7200# (without 5er it was 3860), which gives me a pin weight of 3340# .

My Gross weight total was 12,660 (truck plus pin weight) which is 1,340# under my trucks GVWR of 14,000#.)..Drive axle weight of 7200# put my truck 2550# under my RAWR of 9750#, (based on tires and psi). (AAM rates rear axle at 11,500 to 11,800#).

That poor truck of yours needs a workout! It keeps saying hook me to something BIG!

My trailer axle , 12,580# and pin weight 3340#, put weight of my 5er @ 15,920#, (has a GVW of 16,950#)...Didn't have my generator.(add another 250# to 5er..not sure on pin weight, but it's up front so could raise pin weight 200#, making it 3540#, which still has me 1140# under my trucks GVWR:)

Total weight of combo was 25,240# (add 250 for generator and it's 25,490#)....trucks GCWR is 37,600#.
Anyway, all these weights were taken on CAT scales..only thing I've added is generator in plus fuel in it. (250#).

That truck keeps saying "Jim get me a real load"!

:B

[kakampers]

GVW is 17,600...pin weight is 4,200...just under 24%...