What kind of truck is this?

[Halmfamily]

While we were walking around the campground last week we saw two large trucks pulling fivers. Looked like small tractor trailers. Talking to the owners they love them and pulling Nu-Wa's. My wife sat in one and fell in love with comfortable seats (air ride) and the how high it sat, could see everything. I lived the way they looked and that I could tow almost anything I ever wanted. For the life of me I cannot remember the manufacturer or models. Any ideas? Hate to see what one would cost also. Thanks for the help. Travel on.

[avvidclif1]

I don't know where that number came from but depending on the engine most big rigs use 10-12 gal of oil. Oil change interval depends, usually 10-15k miles.
A lot of variables there. Realize most big rigs run 1800-2000 rpm max and usually need an inframe overhaul at 750k mi. A lot go over 1,000,000 miles without an overhaul, a lot depends on the driver and maintenance.

[TakingThe5th]

me1magoo wrote:
One key note on the maintenance- many of the newer trucks are running 20,000 and even up to 50,000 miles between oil changes! The air shift auto shifting 10 and 13 speed Eaton transmissions have no clutch and drive much like an automatic transmission vehicle with the only difference being that the computer "defuels" when it shifts much as you would if you were shifting a manual trans yourself. This is the best of both worlds- manual trans reliability and auto shifting ease for the driver. We have one of these in one of our tractor trailers at work and while the "real" truck drivers don't like it, the driver who drives it every day goes home without a sore left leg every day. I hope to someday NEED a HDT or MDT....and then I'll just HAVE to get one!

Thanks, the maintenance question was on my mind. My F350 gets 15 fresh quarts of oil every 5,000 miles. So if a HDT or MDT requires 37.5 gal per oil change every 50,000 miles, then there is no difference, Of course there are many maintenance items one must consider, just trying to get an idea of comparative costs.

[me1magoo]

One key note on the maintenance- many of the newer trucks are running 20,000 and even up to 50,000 miles between oil changes! The air shift auto shifting 10 and 13 speed Eaton transmissions have no clutch and drive much like an automatic transmission vehicle with the only difference being that the computer "defuels" when it shifts much as you would if you were shifting a manual trans yourself. This is the best of both worlds- manual trans reliability and auto shifting ease for the driver. We have one of these in one of our tractor trailers at work and while the "real" truck drivers don't like it, the driver who drives it every day goes home without a sore left leg every day. I hope to someday NEED a HDT or MDT....and then I'll just HAVE to get one!

[jwduke]

hone eagle wrote:

YnotTurbo wrote:

hone eagle wrote:
like this ?

I bought the white one.
Way way way less then $100,000 and more power by far then a MDT.

Kinda hard getting into a parking spot at work or when I go to Lowes shopping dontcha think??? lol. Too big and bulky.

Not at all, turns better then my old F250 ,I take it to Lowes all the time .On vacation we use it for running into town all the time.
Same footprint as a long bed dually and with a 56 degree wheel cut I can miss anything thats within 6' of the bumper.
Some guys have used them a daily driver for years before loading a smart car on a deck.Biggest plus? cheaper then a diesel dually and will out last me.

I drive a Freightliner Columbia daycab at work, and it turns tighter than the pickup in my siggy!

[aemedic]

I did a lot of thinking when I was having repeated transmission issues with my 2006 Dodge dually. I was shopping the Dodge 5500 and the Ford 550s...the 2008 Sterling Acterra Twincab was only $40k and it only had 25k miles on it! That is A LOT less than the approx. $60k I would have spent on the Ford or Dodge!
The MDT may be overkill for some but my 18k Toy Hauler is well suited to my MDT and I am much safer than any LDT. With or without the brake controller, the truck stops the TH just fine.

[hone_eagle]

MaxspeedGSX1300R wrote:
My International 8500 will fit into normal parking spots, and I can tow any camper made. Better brakes than any pickup and no need to fight pulling something up big hills.

You forgot, never clean bugs off the front cap ever again.
Nice rig.

[MaxspeedGSX1300]

My International 8500 will fit into normal parking spots, and I can tow any camper made. Better brakes than any pickup and no need to fight pulling something up big hills.

[hone_eagle]

cwill925 wrote:

suse1023 wrote:

hone eagle wrote:
like this ?

I bought the white one.
Way way way less then $100,000 and more power by far then a MDT.

so how much less than a hundred grand?
we're in the market and test drove a kodiak--gorgeous truck which can stop a train i imagine, but geez-louise what a rough ride!
it was terrible even with air ride seats and not for us. i want some comfort and a smooth ride thanksverymuch!

Some of the newer MDT’s have much improved ride comfort. My 2006 Freightliner M2-112 with a Sportchassis upfit is very comfortable. We can travel 10+ hours a day and still feel good on arrival. Never could do that in our F-350. The MDT's and HDT's both have advantages and disadvantages. I prefer the feel of the MDT with four doors and windows like smaller LDT. The people that have MDT's love their trucks and think their model is the best. The HDT owners think all of us MDT drivers are stupid for paying more money for a newer, less worn truck. :B Seriously though, MDT's and HDT's provide an added level of safety when towing some of these massive, rolling homes on wheels.

Very true ,wish I could afford one - 4 doors are better-,and no I dont think you are stupid.
The M2-112 proves there is always a exception ,but many would consider your M2 a HTD
at least in power and comfort,problem is they are rarer then hens teeth in the used market'
Guess the owners know a good thing when they have it.

[fsujeeper]

cwill---your 112 is a hdt in in disguise. The 112 is an awesome platform.

as for the maintence costs a 48 quart oil change and two fuel filters on our peterbilt is only 175

[TakingThe5th]

I wonder how maintenance costs on these things compare to the F350 diesel. It might be that a 15 quart oil change isn't all that bad after all.

[Cummins12V98]

larry barnhart wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

larry barnhart wrote:
I have also noticed less MD trucks where we winter .
chevman

Thanks, glad someone else noticed!

I also notice they don't leave the rv site much.
chevman

I talked to a guy in Indio at Indian Waters RV Resort last winter he had his International for sale. He said he wanted a new Ram like mine but was having a hard time selling his.

[cwill925]

suse1023 wrote:

hone eagle wrote:
like this ?

I bought the white one.
Way way way less then $100,000 and more power by far then a MDT.

so how much less than a hundred grand?
we're in the market and test drove a kodiak--gorgeous truck which can stop a train i imagine, but geez-louise what a rough ride!
it was terrible even with air ride seats and not for us. i want some comfort and a smooth ride thanksverymuch!

Some of the newer MDT’s have much improved ride comfort. My 2006 Freightliner M2-112 with a Sportchassis upfit is very comfortable. We can travel 10+ hours a day and still feel good on arrival. Never could do that in our F-350. The MDT's and HDT's both have advantages and disadvantages. I prefer the feel of the MDT with four doors and windows like smaller LDT. The people that have MDT's love their trucks and think their model is the best. The HDT owners think all of us MDT drivers are stupid for paying more money for a newer, less worn truck. :B Seriously though, MDT's and HDT's provide an added level of safety when towing some of these massive, rolling homes on wheels.

[hone_eagle]

suse1023- remember most of the HTD guys over on the other forum have tried the MTD route and report as you have noticed ,they ride very rough,and cost more.My truck and almost all HTD's are ment to be driven for days and have air ride front axles and air ride cabs.MTD's come from the daily delivery trade - drivers go home for the night,so they have very little in the way of amenities re sound insulation and other comforts.The wife and I can talk in a normal tone of voice,the floor is 3" thick and the doors are double sealed.
The transmission is 'automated' that is to say no clutch peddle so the wife drives it .

[hone_eagle]

suse1023 wrote:

hone eagle wrote:
like this ?

I bought the white one.
Way way way less then $100,000 and more power by far then a MDT.

so how much less than a hundred grand?
we're in the market and test drove a kodiak--gorgeous truck which can stop a train i imagine, but geez-louise what a rough ride!
it was terrible even with air ride seats and not for us. i want some comfort and a smooth ride thanksverymuch!

Easily 1/2 that.If you are interested go to the escapees and their HTD forum as someone has suggested ,a lot of info there and accurate not like the mostly (well meaning) guesses here.